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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Feb 6, 2017, 5:19 pm
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        Looking for

        BA0196 | 11th April 2017 Houston (IAH) > London (LHR)
        BA0275 | 12th May 2017 London (LHR) > Las Vegas (LAS)

        Thanks alot
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        Old Feb 6, 2017, 5:24 pm
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        Originally Posted by osimodel
        looking for

        ba0196 | 11th april 2017 houston (iah) > london (lhr)
        ba0275 | 12th may 2017 london (lhr) > las vegas (las)

        thanks alot
        ba196 : F6 a6 j9 c9 d9 r9 i5 w9 e9 t6 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g9

        ba275 : F7 a6 j9 c9 d7 r4 i3 w9 e9 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g0

        uk pos.
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        Old Feb 7, 2017, 12:18 am
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        Hi could someone check

        NCL to LHR / BA1321 on the 8th April. Is this flight sold out or blocked by a travel agent or something. Weird it's sold out.
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        Old Feb 7, 2017, 1:39 am
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        Originally Posted by anonymous_third_party
        Hi could someone check

        NCL to LHR / BA1321 on the 8th April. Is this flight sold out or blocked by a travel agent or something. Weird it's sold out.
        This is what expertflyer shows for flights with BA on that day:
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        Old Feb 7, 2017, 4:29 am
          #4460  
         
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        Very strange the 6.05 is sold out completely on a Saturday.
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        Old Feb 7, 2017, 5:14 am
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        Thanks to those that run this. Thanks in advance for any help.

        Looking for BA 190 Aus to Lhr on 18th April.

        Thanks
        AO
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        Old Feb 7, 2017, 5:15 am
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        Originally Posted by Ancient Observer
        Thanks to those that run this. Thanks in advance for any help.

        Looking for BA 190 Aus to Lhr on 18th April.

        Thanks
        AO
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing AUS on 04/18/17 12:00 AM for LHR
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        BA 190        0      AUS                LHR                789       Daily           F2 A2 J9 C9 D9 R8 I5 W9 E8 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 
                             04/18/17 6:20 PM   04/19/17 9:50 AM             88% / 16m
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        Old Feb 7, 2017, 5:26 am
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        florens,
        thank you.
        Ho hum That looks relatively quiet.
        AO
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        Old Feb 7, 2017, 5:59 am
          #4464  
         
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        Originally Posted by Ancient Observer
        florens,
        thank you.
        Ho hum That looks relatively quiet.
        AO
        You're over two months out - you can't read anything in to how busy the flight will be.
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        Old Feb 7, 2017, 1:57 pm
          #4465  
         
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        Originally Posted by MPH1980
        You're over two months out - you can't read anything in to how busy the flight will be.
        Is there a point at which it starts to stabilise? Is T-7 reliable or do the figures still change quite wildly right up to T-24? I usually wait until a few days before travel before asking for loads.
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        Old Feb 7, 2017, 1:59 pm
          #4466  
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        Originally Posted by HarryKUK
        Is there a point at which it starts to stabilise? Is T-7 reliable or do the figures still change quite wildly right up to T-24? I usually wait until a few days before travel before asking for loads.
        There is no generic answer to this question. I've seen flights hardly change at all in the last few days and some flights change dramatically.
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        Old Feb 9, 2017, 6:45 am
          #4467  
         
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        BA 49 , LHR - SEA , Wednesday 15th Feb

        Any thoughts if we are likely to go out full?
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        Old Feb 9, 2017, 6:48 am
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        Originally Posted by scottishpoet
        BA 49 , LHR - SEA , Wednesday 15th Feb

        Any thoughts if we are likely to go out full?
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing LHR on 02/15/17 12:00 AM for SEA
        Flying BA  
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        BA 49         0      LHR                SEA                777       M,T,W,Th,F,Sa   F7 A6 J9 C6 D5 R4 I0 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H8 K8 M8 L6 V3 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 
                             02/15/17 2:25 PM   02/15/17 4:15 PM             68% / 23m
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        Old Feb 9, 2017, 7:27 am
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        Thanks, looks busyish down the back but not full and quite a lot of WTP+ avail
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        Old Feb 9, 2017, 10:21 am
          #4470  
         
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        would anybody so kind as to pull the loads for:

        BA269 LHR-LAX 12th Feb
        BA192 DFW-LHR 16th Feb

        Thanks!
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