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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Jan 13, 2017, 7:09 pm
          #4366  
         
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        no more KVS

        given all the issues with KVS I haven't renewed and haven't yet got around to checking what features in KVS EF can duplicate.

        In the interim can a helpful FTer perhaps pull up availability on the following ?

        ba 219 lhr-den Jan 27
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        Old Jan 13, 2017, 7:57 pm
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        ba 219 lhr-den Jan 27
        F7 A6 J9 C3 D3 R1 IC W1 EC TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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        Old Jan 14, 2017, 6:53 am
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        Hi,

        could someone post the current seat availability of KL0641 AMS-JFK tomorrow (15th January) please.

        Regards.
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        Old Jan 14, 2017, 7:01 am
          #4369  
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        Originally Posted by snoopy1664
        Hi,

        could someone post the current seat availability of KL0641 AMS-JFK tomorrow (15th January) please.

        Regards.
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing AMS on 01/15/17 12:00 AM for JFK
        Flying KL  
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequenc
        0 Connections
        KL 641        0      AMS                JFK                772       Daily           J2 C2 D2 I2 ZC Y5 B5 M4 U3 K2 H2 L1 QC TC EL NC RC VC GC 
                             01/15/17 1:30 PM   01/15/17 3:55 PM             85% / 24m
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        Old Jan 14, 2017, 7:18 am
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        Thank you so very much!


        Originally Posted by florens
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing AMS on 01/15/17 12:00 AM for JFK
        Flying KL  
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequenc
        0 Connections
        KL 641        0      AMS                JFK                772       Daily           J2 C2 D2 I2 ZC Y5 B5 M4 U3 K2 H2 L1 QC TC EL NC RC VC GC 
                             01/15/17 1:30 PM   01/15/17 3:55 PM             85% / 24m
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        Old Jan 14, 2017, 3:27 pm
          #4371  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2016
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        Hello

        Could someone please check the flight load for the following flight :
        January 18th -LHR to SEA -BA0049

        Thanks in advance
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        Old Jan 14, 2017, 3:35 pm
          #4372  
         
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        Uk pos:


        01/18/17 2:25 pm lhr
        01/18/17 4:15 pm sea

        f9 a8 j9 c2 d1 rc ic w9 e9 t5 y9 b9 h7 k7 m7 l7 v6 s5 n4 q4 o3 g0
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        Old Jan 15, 2017, 9:59 am
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        Is it possible to find out seat availability on BA 39 LHR--PEK ON 19 Jan. Thanks very much
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        Old Jan 15, 2017, 10:02 am
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        Originally Posted by wellfleet ewr
        is it possible to find out seat availability on ba 39 lhr--pek on 19 jan. Thanks very much
        uk pos

        f9 a9 j9 c4 d4 r2 ic w9 e9 t5 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n8 qc oc g0
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        Old Jan 15, 2017, 10:04 am
          #4375  
         
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        Originally Posted by wellfleet ewr
        is it possible to find out seat availability on ba 39 lhr--pek on 19 jan. Thanks very much
        ba 39
        lhr 19/01/17 16:20
        pek 20/01/17 10:25
        777
        f9 a9 j9 c4 d4 r2 ic w9 e9 t5 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n8 qc oc g0
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        Old Jan 16, 2017, 3:23 am
          #4376  
         
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        Any help with BA193, 18 January, LHR-DFW ? Would be much appreciated!
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        Old Jan 16, 2017, 3:24 am
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        Originally Posted by BAMuc
        Any help with BA193, 18 January, LHR-DFW ? Would be much appreciated!
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing LHR on 01/18/17 12:00 AM for DFW
        Flying BA  
        Direct/Non-Stop Only
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        
        BA 193        0      LHR                DFW                744       Unavailable     F9 A9 J9 C4 D4 R1 IC W9 E5 TC Y9 B9 H9 K8 M5 L3 VC SC NC QC OC G9 
                             01/18/17 10:25 AM  01/18/17 2:35 PM             75% / 23m
        
                          01/18/17 8:25 PM   01/18/17 10:53 PM            65% / 33m
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        Old Jan 16, 2017, 8:11 am
          #4378  
         
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        Could someone check QF10, 18 January, LHR-MEL ? Cheers
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        Old Jan 16, 2017, 8:20 am
          #4379  
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        Originally Posted by mm00ll2
        could someone check qf10, 18 january, lhr-mel ? Cheers
        ukpos
        f4 a4 j3 c0 d0 i0 w1 r1 t0 y9 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 vc sc nc qc oc xc ec
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        Old Jan 16, 2017, 2:47 pm
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        Many thanks
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