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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Sep 19, 2016 | 3:02 am
          #3706  
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        A trip for me please

        MAN-PHL AA735 8th October (If poissible)
        YYZ-LHR BA92 23rd October

        thanks
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        Old Sep 19, 2016 | 3:04 am
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        Originally Posted by aidy
        A trip for me please

        MAN-PHL AA735 8th October (If poissible)
        YYZ-LHR BA92 23rd October

        thanks
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing MAN on 10/08/16 12:00 AM for PHL
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        AA 735        0      MAN                PHL                332       Daily           J7 R7 D4 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S7 N7 O0 Q0 
                             10/08/16 11:00 AM  10/08/16 1:50 PM             75% / 46m
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing YYZ on 10/23/16 12:00 AM for LHR
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        
        0 Connections
        BA 92         0      YYZ                LHR                744       Daily           F1 A1 J9 C9 D9 R8 I4 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N4 Q0 O0 G0 
                             10/23/16 6:35 PM   10/24/16 6:35 AM             89% / 18m
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        Old Sep 19, 2016 | 3:08 am
          #3708  
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        Originally Posted by Andriyko
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing MAN on 10/08/16 12:00 AM for PHL
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        AA 735        0      MAN                PHL                332       Daily           J7 R7 D4 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S7 N7 O0 Q0 
                             10/08/16 11:00 AM  10/08/16 1:50 PM             75% / 46m
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing YYZ on 10/23/16 12:00 AM for LHR
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        
        0 Connections
        BA 92         0      YYZ                LHR                744       Daily           F1 A1 J9 C9 D9 R8 I4 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N4 Q0 O0 G0 
                             10/23/16 6:35 PM   10/24/16 6:35 AM             89% / 18m
        Thanks ^
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        Old Sep 20, 2016 | 12:20 am
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        Originally Posted by gustavmahler
        Both are with UK POS:

        BA 31
        F2 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 QC OC G0

        BA 27
        F5 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 QC OC G0
        Thanks gustavmahler!
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        Old Sep 20, 2016 | 11:16 am
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        Anyone available to look at BA LGW TPA 21sep? And return 24Sep? Thanks in advance...
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        Old Sep 20, 2016 | 11:29 am
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        Originally Posted by no longer atc
        Anyone available to look at BA LGW TPA 21sep? And return 24Sep? Thanks in advance...
        Here you go

        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing LGW on 09/21/16 12:00 AM for TPA
        Returning on 09/24/16 12:00 AM 
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        BA 2167       0      LGW                TPA                777       W               J1 C1 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 
                             09/21/16 11:50 AM  09/21/16 4:20 PM             68% / 20m
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing TPA on 09/24/16 12:00 AM for LGW
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        BA 2166       0      TPA                LGW                777       Daily           J2 C2 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S8 N0 Q0 O0 G9 
                             09/24/16 6:05 PM   09/25/16 7:35 AM             76% / 31m
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        Old Sep 20, 2016 | 11:42 am
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        Thanks!..
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        Old Sep 21, 2016 | 7:41 am
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        Hi All,

        Could someone kindly check the follow for me?

        Flying out for my wedding tomorrow in WTP - hoping for an upgrade!

        Flight BA 2205 - Dept 12.05 LGW > Arr PUJ 16.05
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        Old Sep 21, 2016 | 7:49 am
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        Originally Posted by superduper
        hi all,

        could someone kindly check the follow for me?

        Flying out for my wedding tomorrow in wtp - hoping for an upgrade!

        flight ba 2205 - dept 12.05 lgw > arr puj 16.05
        ba 2205
        lgw 22/09/16 12:05
        puj 22/09/16 16:05
        777
        j9 c9 d6 rc ic w5 e0 t0 y7 b7 h4 k0 m0 lc vc sc nc qc oc g6
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        Old Sep 22, 2016 | 10:24 am
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        I kmow this is the BA forum but I will give it a try.

        Anyone got the loads for LH456 FRA-LAX on 24/9?
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        Old Sep 22, 2016 | 10:39 am
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        Please and thanks in advance:
        24/09: BA 238 - BOS-LHR
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        Old Sep 22, 2016 | 12:43 pm
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        Originally Posted by B747forever
        I kmow this is the BA forum but I will give it a try.

        Anyone got the loads for LH456 FRA-LAX on 24/9?
        UK point of sale:

        F2 AL J6 C6 D5 ZL PC G9 E8 N8 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 LC KC
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        Old Sep 22, 2016 | 12:44 pm
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        Originally Posted by MHTFlyer
        Please and thanks in advance:
        24/09: BA 238 - BOS-LHR
        UK point of sale:

        F5 A5 J6 C0 DC RC IC W2 EC TC Y8 B5 H3 K3 M3 L3 V3 SC NC QC OC G3
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        Old Sep 22, 2016 | 2:31 pm
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        Originally Posted by rossmacd
        UK point of sale:

        F2 AL J6 C6 D5 ZL PC G9 E8 N8 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 LC KC
        Thanks.

        So if I read that correct, Y looks pretty wide open.
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        Old Sep 22, 2016 | 2:33 pm
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        Originally Posted by B747forever
        Thanks.

        So if I read that correct, Y looks pretty wide open.
        It means that the airline is currently prepared to sell at least 9 tickets in all fare classes in economy apart from L and K.
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