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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Mar 30, 2016, 11:07 am
          #2881  
         
        Join Date: Aug 2010
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        Originally Posted by no longer atc
        Anyone free to check the loads on BA962 LHR-HAM tomorrow, 31st please? Still waitlisted...
        Eh? Looks fairly open.

        J5 C3 D2 RC IC Y9 B5 H2 K1 M0 LC VC NC QC OC SC G0

        A dummy booking put me into K (top non-flexible bucket) but I couldn't click through to a seat map.
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        Old Mar 30, 2016, 12:08 pm
          #2882  
         
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        Thanks Cymro,I'm on stf travel,that's why I'm wait listed x
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        Old Apr 1, 2016, 2:41 am
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        Hello, would someone be so kind as to check the loads for TK346 (IST-FRU) on April 2nd 16? Thanks a lot
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        Old Apr 1, 2016, 1:41 pm
          #2884  
         
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        Hello, could someone check on BA48 (SEA ->LHR) on April 7th?

        Thanks in advance.

        Last edited by greencactus; Apr 1, 2016 at 4:22 pm Reason: clarification on dates
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        Old Apr 1, 2016, 1:43 pm
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        Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club, easyJet and Ryanair
         
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        Originally Posted by greencactus
        Hello, could someone check on BA48 (SEA ->LHR) on 4/7?

        Thanks in advance.
        Welcome to the FlyerTalk community, I'm glad you've broken your duck and posted. You'll soon be able to make your second post - is the date you're looking for April 7 or 4 July?
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        Old Apr 1, 2016, 4:19 pm
          #2886  
         
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        Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
        Welcome to the FlyerTalk community, I'm glad you've broken your duck and posted. You'll soon be able to make your second post - is the date you're looking for April 7 or 4 July?
        Oops, should have been clearer with my post. I'm looking at the flight on April 7th.
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        Old Apr 1, 2016, 4:35 pm
          #2887  
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        Originally Posted by greencactus
        Oops, should have been clearer with my post. I'm looking at the flight on April 7th.
        BA 48 0 SEA
        07/04/16 19:10 LHR
        08/04/16 12:25 777
        M,T,W,Th
        85% / 30m F7 A6 J9 C5 D3 R1 IC W9 E9 T5 Y9 B6 H3 K3 M3 L3 V3 S3 N3 Q1 OC GL
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        Old Apr 4, 2016, 5:42 am
          #2888  
         
        Join Date: Sep 2010
        Location: London, UK
        Programs: BA, VS
        Posts: 335
        Please could someone check the following for me:

        BA119 LHR-BLR Monday 11th April 2016
        BA036 MAA-LHR Thursday 14th April 2016

        Many thanks, MJ
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        Old Apr 4, 2016, 6:21 am
          #2889  
         
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        Hi

        Could anyone check VS65 Sunday 10th april from Gatwick to Montego Bay please ?

        Many thanks

        Steph
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        Old Apr 4, 2016, 7:02 am
          #2890  
         
        Join Date: Aug 2015
        Programs: BA Gold, IHG Spire Amb, HH Diamond
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        From the UK POS:

        Originally Posted by mjuler
        BA119 LHR-BLR Monday 11th April 2016
        J3 C1 D1 R1 IC W8 E6 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        Originally Posted by mjuler
        BA036 MAA-LHR Thursday 14th April 2016
        J1 C0 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y9 B8 H5 K4 M2 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0
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        Old Apr 4, 2016, 7:19 am
          #2891  
         
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        Originally Posted by Phorbas
        From the UK POS:



        J3 C1 D1 R1 IC W8 E6 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9



        J1 C0 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y9 B8 H5 K4 M2 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0
        Thank you. Travelling WT outward, so hoping to get some decent space. The seat map is currently showing massive availability, but still 7 days out. WTP on the way back.
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        Old Apr 5, 2016, 4:52 am
          #2892  
         
        Join Date: Mar 2016
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        Originally Posted by scottishpoet
        what happened?
        Sorry for not replying sooner; I had very limited access because we were travelling so much.

        TL;DR: Got bumped to World Traveller but reinstated at gate.

        I followed the plan and was asked at check-in if I would come off the flight because it was very over-booked (compensation of about 600 was offered). I said no and was bumped from World Traveller Plus to World Traveller but told that at the gate I would probably be put back into Plus because many of the passengers were from connecting flights, otherwise I could claim 75% of my ticket fare. When I got to the gate, I checked with the staff there and they said I wouldn't know until boarding started. Lo and behold - when they scanned my ticket, the machine gave a little ping and I was bumped back up to Traveller Plus. As a bonus I miraculously got the seat right next to my Mum!

        Thanks again for your help It really helped to have a plan so I wasn't too worried on the day.
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        Old Apr 5, 2016, 5:05 am
          #2893  
         
        Join Date: Dec 2015
        Programs: BAEC Blue
        Posts: 247
        Originally Posted by anjali_pavar
        Sorry for not replying sooner; I had very limited access because we were travelling so much.

        TL;DR: Got bumped to World Traveller but reinstated at gate.

        I followed the plan and was asked at check-in if I would come off the flight because it was very over-booked (compensation of about 600 was offered). I said no and was bumped from World Traveller Plus to World Traveller but told that at the gate I would probably be put back into Plus because many of the passengers were from connecting flights, otherwise I could claim 75% of my ticket fare. When I got to the gate, I checked with the staff there and they said I wouldn't know until boarding started. Lo and behold - when they scanned my ticket, the machine gave a little ping and I was bumped back up to Traveller Plus. As a bonus I miraculously got the seat right next to my Mum!

        Thanks again for your help It really helped to have a plan so I wasn't too worried on the day.
        All's well that ends well. Very glad it all worked out for you, anjali_pavar, and thanks for reporting back!
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        Old Apr 5, 2016, 6:00 am
          #2894  
         
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        great news!
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        Old Apr 5, 2016, 7:11 am
          #2895  
         
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        Thanks in advance for the following:
        BA99 Thursday 21 April 1700
        BA206 Monday 2 May 1705
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