Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
- ACE - £105
- AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – £72
- BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
- BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – £79
- DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – £69
- FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – £69
- GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
- GOT – £79
- GVA - £79/£89
- HAJ – £69
- HAM – £69
- HEL – £89
- INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – £89
- JER – £69
- KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – £79
- LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
- LUX - £69
- MAD - £79
- MAH - £69
- MUC - £79
- MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - £69
- OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - £79/€89
- PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – £79
- PSA - £79
- SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - £89
- STR – £69
- TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – £79
- TXL – £69
- VCE – £79
- VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – £79
- ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP £189
- BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP £157
- JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP £180
- LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP £180
- MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
- ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
- PHL – WTP £189
- SAN – CW £599
- SEA – WTP £199
- SFO – WTP £170
- YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
- YYC - WTP £134
- YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP £199
- GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
- GIG - WT to CW £699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
- BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
- DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
- HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
- NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
- ICN - CW £499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F £499
- CAI - WTP £121
- DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
- EBB - WTP £142
- JNB - WTP £209
- NBO - WTP £189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F £465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE £64
- BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - £189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
Nov 22, 2014, 1:26 am
#3556
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 1,406
Definitely going up. Back in the summer I was seeing £69 on some routes, now it is more likely to be double that. Latest I have is £149 lhr to fco. Er no thanks. I hope it does return to sensible levels at some point.
Nov 22, 2014, 5:24 am
#3557
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: London, United Kingdom
Programs: OW/AA, DL, UA; Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,936
Just offered £99 LHR - CDG
"Limited Time Offer"
7:30 pm departure, 1 hour 10 minute flight, I already have an exit row....
"Limited Time Offer"
7:30 pm departure, 1 hour 10 minute flight, I already have an exit row....
Nov 22, 2014, 8:52 am
#3558
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 52
£99 LHR to MAD; the first time in a very long time I turned down a POUG as I have an exit row seat in ET booked.
Nov 22, 2014, 11:14 am
#3559
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 1,406
I'm routinely turning them down now. Most my flights booked early enough to get decent seats, and my GC TP-chasing is done for the year. I actually go 200TP over during my "year", mainly as I want to have it for a couple more months. Next year I plan to simply enjoy the GC, assess if worth chasing again, and then get the soft-landing to Silver and see what happens from there. I used POUG's extensively this year to get the TPs needed, so I am a little sorry to see the new levels. Best one was a £189 WT-WT+ to HKG and then an OpUp at the gate. Netted an extra 55 TPs but a superb flight - almost tempting to book LH in WT+ every time.
Nov 22, 2014, 11:17 am
#3560
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 1,406
By way of another example, £129 ET-CE LGW to Malaga. Given I could get G-MEDK again I'm declining!
Nov 22, 2014, 4:26 pm
#3561
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: London, United Kingdom
Programs: OW/AA, DL, UA; Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,936
Nov 23, 2014, 9:52 am
#3562
Join Date: Apr 2013
Programs: BAEC Silver, Marriott Gold
Posts: 86
Lhr - otp £129
Nov 26, 2014, 11:18 am
#3563
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: usually LON
Programs: BA Gold (OWE), Tesco Blue, TK Elite (*G), Oyster Diamond Jubilee edition
Posts: 1,546
LHR-AMS £69 today, from some cheap fare bucket, never used POUG
Nov 26, 2014, 11:48 am
#3564
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Programs: IC Hotels Spire, BA Gold
Posts: 8,679
That's more like it for short hops to CDG, AMS or BRU. I certainly didn't take up the £104 POUG (each way) offer for my LGW-AMS-LGW flights this week. And both ways there was plenty of availability in CE, probably only about 50% full.
Nov 26, 2014, 12:19 pm
#3565
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bloomsbury
Programs: BA Silver, AF Ivory
Posts: 2,209
LHR - ORY for tomorrow evening, £99
Er, no thanks. Have been £56 and £59 in the past.
Er, no thanks. Have been £56 and £59 in the past.
Nov 26, 2014, 12:27 pm
#3566
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 65
LHR - WAW £119
No thanks.
No thanks.
Nov 26, 2014, 2:51 pm
#3567
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: BA GGL, A3*G, Mucci de l'expertise des Apps
Posts: 3,367
I agree that they seem to be going up at the moment. €119 for AMS-LGW on a Thursday afternoon, HBO fare, booked 2 weeks in advance and has been offered at that same price throughout. No way am I going to be paying that for no-one sitting next to me for a 40 minute flight and an afternoon tea service. I'll also take the exit row in ET and manage without the TPs thanks very much.
Nov 27, 2014, 5:21 am
#3568
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: London, United Kingdom
Programs: OW/AA, DL, UA; Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,936
Are these offers linked with the traveler and his/her frequent flyer number?
As in, if one declines these, or declines these frequently, do the offers stop coming?
(Am thinking that's not the case. I believe there was discussion on this a while back, but can't find it).
As in, if one declines these, or declines these frequently, do the offers stop coming?
(Am thinking that's not the case. I believe there was discussion on this a while back, but can't find it).
Nov 27, 2014, 5:30 am
#3569
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: BAEC Silver, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,796
Some things like the cheapest LGW-JER-LGW are £56 in ET. Offers of upgrading to CE are £99 so around £254 return there.
£218 seems to be the cheapest you can pay for CE outright on this route so cheaper not paying for POUGs in this case.
Think this is the only route I've ever been offered a POUG on regardless of how empty of full a flight might be.
£218 seems to be the cheapest you can pay for CE outright on this route so cheaper not paying for POUGs in this case.
Think this is the only route I've ever been offered a POUG on regardless of how empty of full a flight might be.
Nov 27, 2014, 5:36 am
#3570
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 64,039
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