View Poll Results: If AA Citi Exec MC purchases no longer count toward Million Miler status after 2012:
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will definitely keep my card - other benefits worth it
12
7.45%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will probably keep my card
11
6.83%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I'm not sure yet if I will keep or cancel my card
23
14.29%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will probably cancel my card
26
16.15%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will definitely cancel my card - other benefits not worth it
46
28.57%
Obtained card after Nov 30, 2011: I'm already ineligible for this benefit anyways
8
4.97%
I'm not a cardholder: I would enroll if this benefit were offered for new cardholders
22
13.66%
I'm not a cardholder: I would not enroll even if this benefit were offered for new cardholders
3
1.86%
I'm not a cardholder: I just want to see the poll results
10
6.21%
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Archive: AA Citibank Executive / AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard (& MM poll)
Jul 18, 2011, 12:34 pm
#63
Join Date: May 2011
Location: ORD
Programs: AA LTG, Marriott LTP. 50% Delta LTS, Working on Hyatt LTD
Posts: 676
+1
100k before Christmas anyone?
If it was on par with the Amex Delta cards I'd already have 2 of them (one for me, one for wife), 100k bonus be damned.
Surprised they didn't go for Delta when they targeted the card EQMs - it seems pretty clear they targeted UA and their sorry little 10k for $40k max / year promo. The CO card earn rate sucks even more but at least it's not capped at 10k...
They set the bar as low as possible right out of the gate. /cheer
100k before Christmas anyone?
Surprised they didn't go for Delta when they targeted the card EQMs - it seems pretty clear they targeted UA and their sorry little 10k for $40k max / year promo. The CO card earn rate sucks even more but at least it's not capped at 10k...
They set the bar as low as possible right out of the gate. /cheer
Jul 18, 2011, 12:56 pm
#64
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: BOS
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 7,710
I think the market for this card is too small. Its cost is too high for a card that gives EQMs rather than EQPs. The extra RDM per $ should appeal to certain high revenue passengers, but most of these passengers need EQPs not EQMs.
Jul 18, 2011, 1:49 pm
#67
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Utqiagvik (Barrow) Alaska and Ann Arbor, Michigan
Programs: Charter Member Delta Diamond Medallion, Lifetime AA Platinum, IHG Diamond, Hilton & Marriott Gold
Posts: 630
I'd bet this card will eventually have some pretty hefty signup bonuses (ala Chase's 100K limited time offer [now expired] for the BA card) down the road given the high annual charge and the low signup bonus now re: past Citi offers.
Also AC "access" is very different from AC membership and believe me, the AAngels I've spoken with know the difference...they value the AC members much more than the Amex Platinums...at least the AAngels I've asked about this. I doubt they are going to do proactive rebooking / trip disruption IRROPS work for someone using this card vs full-fledged members.
Also AC "access" is very different from AC membership and believe me, the AAngels I've spoken with know the difference...they value the AC members much more than the Amex Platinums...at least the AAngels I've asked about this. I doubt they are going to do proactive rebooking / trip disruption IRROPS work for someone using this card vs full-fledged members.
If your information is correct, I will need to rethink giving American Airlines or Amex my future business. Does anyone know if there is a published difference in the service levels at the AA Admirals Club?
Jul 18, 2011, 1:56 pm
#68
Join Date: Mar 2007
Programs: AA 1MM
Posts: 3,182
Why should the AAngels treat Amex Platinum Cardmembers differently than purchasing an Admirals Club membership? Once I enter an AC club, I would expect to get the same level of service as everyone else. If I was discriminated against in service levels as you suggest, out of frustration, I would drop both American Express as a credit card and American Airlines as an airline.
Now, if you are talking about the attitudes of the staff (vs. the granting of benefits such as free wifi, entry even w/o same-day AA ticket, etc), that's a different story. I've never felt that I was treated poorly as an Amex Plat, though I've seen some "unwritten" benefits bestowed upon members.
For example, I once overheard a passenger ask an AAngel for row 17 on a 763 (LAX-ORD), and the AAngel asked if she was an AC member, to which the pax replied she was. The AAngel said something to the effect of "we only do this for members" and gave her 17. My guess is that the GAs don't like it and the AC has to draw a line somewhere so that they aren't doing it all the time.
All that being said, I've had a number of AAngels work very hard to help me out in situations with IRR-OPS, even if not proactively. I remember once being scheduled on a delayed MIA-LAX and not knowing how long the delay would end up being. All of a sudden an A seat (mileage upgrade, not paid F) opened on the next flight and I asked to be protected on it. They did so w/o discussion. And that's to say nothing of the MIA AC rep who really bent over backwards to help me find a hotel with laundry after a cancelled flight and brought my laptop down to security after I forgot it in the club (and had left for the hotel already).
Jul 18, 2011, 2:02 pm
#69
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Coppell, TX
Programs: AA EXP (1M+), HH Diamond, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 384
T-Mobile HotSpot? I thought T-mobile was being replaced by AT&T Wi-Fi?!
Jul 18, 2011, 2:10 pm
#70
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP 1.5MM, Asiana Club Silver, KE Morning Calm, Hyatt Platinum, Amtrak Select
Posts: 7,161
Jul 18, 2011, 2:53 pm
#71
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: AA Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 736
I would really consider this card if I didn't already had the Platinum Select from Citi. Ugh!
Jul 18, 2011, 3:11 pm
#72
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 14,638
The card seems pretty weak to me. If was going to drop $450, I'll get the AMEX Plat which also includes AC access as well as access on other airlines along with various fee rebates ($200 airline and global traveller). Baggage waivers is somethhing elites already have
Jul 18, 2011, 3:13 pm
#73
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP 1.5MM, Asiana Club Silver, KE Morning Calm, Hyatt Platinum, Amtrak Select
Posts: 7,161
Jul 18, 2011, 5:55 pm
#74
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: AA Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 736
For me personally it would work for me. The Amex wouldn't because I only really travel on AA.
Jul 18, 2011, 6:56 pm
#75
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, OW Emerald, HH Diamond, PC Platinum, SPG Gold, Emerald Club Executive
Posts: 216
I agree. I'm still debating where I come down on this card given the relatively few perks for EXPs vs. the high-fee.
For an EXP AC member who currently pays $300 a year, the card is basically $150.
Forget all of the priority and free checked bags perks as those are not perks to EXPs. This is really a question of whether no foreign finance fee + 10k EQMs (at a really high $40k per year threshold) per year + 2x AA miles on AA spend (though most of us are spending all of our "AA dollars" at Costco these days) is worth $150.
For an EXP AC member who currently pays $300 a year, the card is basically $150.
Forget all of the priority and free checked bags perks as those are not perks to EXPs. This is really a question of whether no foreign finance fee + 10k EQMs (at a really high $40k per year threshold) per year + 2x AA miles on AA spend (though most of us are spending all of our "AA dollars" at Costco these days) is worth $150.
I think I'll hold out for much sweeter signup bonus....