Westjet to land at Laguardia!!
Nov 27, 2011, 10:20 pm
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Why? WestJet codeshares with both Delta and AA. There's no reason the new WestJet flights won't carry passengers connecting on to those international flights.
Nov 27, 2011, 11:00 pm
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Nice to see WS coming to LGA, will surely be good for the market. Hopefully some lower fares, or at least some intoductory fares!
When are they going to start service?
When are they going to start service?
Nov 27, 2011, 11:21 pm
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It will be interesting to see how things play out, if WS is counting on a bunch of interline traffic from DL/AA as opposed to mainly O&D traffic for LGA.
Nov 27, 2011, 11:46 pm
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WestJet is in negotiations right now for codesharing. With this in place, Delta can phase out the small jet it has and let WestJet run the show @ JFK.
Westjet got additional slots at LGA, it basically will just duplicate the existing structure it had before at LGA with some more slots since it acquired more this time. It will be routes to Canada within the 1500 mile limit except possibly on saturdays if they wished.
Up to DL what it is doing, but I think the phaseout of the small jet 50 seat is likely. Perhaps it could upgrade it to a larger jet or just let WestJet run it.
It will be really nice after the slot swaps are finalized soon. Makes for a much better travel experience as JetBlue and WestJet will use larger jets than USAirways did, plus Delta will also migrate to larger jets as well.
Plus I bet USAirways will also phase out the smaller planes it had at LGA as well with the elimination of those routes.
The sad part is that smaller cities which required small jets will be left out of the loop. However I think this calls for more regional high speed rail since those can be run on much lower cost electricity to bring better transportation to those regions. In some cases where required they may still run smaller planes at higher ticket prices, but there are lots of stories where airports are being shut out of commercial traffic because costs are too high.
But as far as WestJet is concerned at LGA, if I had to go to Canada, I think its quite likely I would be on Westjet.
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Nov 28, 2011, 7:03 am
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Westjet to JFK I cannot see happening. Transferring from LGA to JFK is akin to needles in my eyes - why would anyone subject themselves to that? I also tend to agree that YYZ is the only viable destination with the exception of Calgary but as has been noted that would be sat only due to perimiter rule. Edmonton would also work sat only. Is there any way to get exemptions from the perimiter?
Nov 28, 2011, 7:31 am
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Westjet to JFK I cannot see happening. Transferring from LGA to JFK is akin to needles in my eyes - why would anyone subject themselves to that? I also tend to agree that YYZ is the only viable destination with the exception of Calgary but as has been noted that would be sat only due to perimiter rule. Edmonton would also work sat only. Is there any way to get exemptions from the perimiter?
WestJet Serves EWR, JFK and LGA. There is no transfer needed from LGA to JFK.
WestJet is in negotiations right now for codesharing. With this in place, Delta can phase out the small jet it has and let WestJet run the show @ JFK.
Westjet got additional slots at LGA, it basically will just duplicate the existing structure it had before at LGA with some more slots since it acquired more this time. It will be routes to Canada within the 1500 mile limit except possibly on saturdays if they wished.
Up to DL what it is doing, but I think the phaseout of the small jet 50 seat is likely. Perhaps it could upgrade it to a larger jet or just let WestJet run it.
It will be really nice after the slot swaps are finalized soon. Makes for a much better travel experience as JetBlue and WestJet will use larger jets than USAirways did, plus Delta will also migrate to larger jets as well.
Plus I bet USAirways will also phase out the smaller planes it had at LGA as well with the elimination of those routes.
The sad part is that smaller cities which required small jets will be left out of the loop. However I think this calls for more regional high speed rail since those can be run on much lower cost electricity to bring better transportation to those regions. In some cases where required they may still run smaller planes at higher ticket prices, but there are lots of stories where airports are being shut out of commercial traffic because costs are too high.
But as far as WestJet is concerned at LGA, if I had to go to Canada, I think its quite likely I would be on Westjet.
WestJet is in negotiations right now for codesharing. With this in place, Delta can phase out the small jet it has and let WestJet run the show @ JFK.
Westjet got additional slots at LGA, it basically will just duplicate the existing structure it had before at LGA with some more slots since it acquired more this time. It will be routes to Canada within the 1500 mile limit except possibly on saturdays if they wished.
Up to DL what it is doing, but I think the phaseout of the small jet 50 seat is likely. Perhaps it could upgrade it to a larger jet or just let WestJet run it.
It will be really nice after the slot swaps are finalized soon. Makes for a much better travel experience as JetBlue and WestJet will use larger jets than USAirways did, plus Delta will also migrate to larger jets as well.
Plus I bet USAirways will also phase out the smaller planes it had at LGA as well with the elimination of those routes.
The sad part is that smaller cities which required small jets will be left out of the loop. However I think this calls for more regional high speed rail since those can be run on much lower cost electricity to bring better transportation to those regions. In some cases where required they may still run smaller planes at higher ticket prices, but there are lots of stories where airports are being shut out of commercial traffic because costs are too high.
But as far as WestJet is concerned at LGA, if I had to go to Canada, I think its quite likely I would be on Westjet.
I think your thoughts that US and DL will fold their operations at LGA (or at JFK for DL) are very premature. The NYC market is too lucrative to pass onto a newcomer. Give it 5 or 10 yrs, then we may see a shift, but WS has 8 slot pairs, 1.44% of all rights, whereas DL and US (and AC) outstrip this by multiples!
Nov 28, 2011, 2:20 pm
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did that once, never again!
WS does not serve JFK. It does codeshare with AA from JFK-YYZ and JFK-YUL. I think that might put a damper in any WS-DL JFK operations. I think it is foolish to even think that DL would shutter its TB operations in favor of WS.
I think your thoughts that US and DL will fold their operations at LGA (or at JFK for DL) are very premature. The NYC market is too lucrative to pass onto a newcomer. Give it 5 or 10 yrs, then we may see a shift, but WS has 8 slot pairs, 1.44% of all rights, whereas DL and US (and AC) outstrip this by multiples!
WS does not serve JFK. It does codeshare with AA from JFK-YYZ and JFK-YUL. I think that might put a damper in any WS-DL JFK operations. I think it is foolish to even think that DL would shutter its TB operations in favor of WS.
I think your thoughts that US and DL will fold their operations at LGA (or at JFK for DL) are very premature. The NYC market is too lucrative to pass onto a newcomer. Give it 5 or 10 yrs, then we may see a shift, but WS has 8 slot pairs, 1.44% of all rights, whereas DL and US (and AC) outstrip this by multiples!
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Sorry I thought it was run by themselves out of JFK. So Westjet will be serving LGA natively I presume. With 737 service out of LGA I would be one of those customers if I had to fly out of NYC to Toronto.
This is even better news than I initially thought since it allows them to move their own service over here rather than codeshare.
As far as the other airlines go, perhaps some competitors will stay but I bet these 8 slots are just the start of WestJet's expansion of service from USA to Canada and I wouldn't rule them getting more slots in the future perhaps from other carriers who may wish to phase out the routes and codeshare with Westjet.
From a consumer perspective, LGA to Canada over Westjet makes great sense and would definitely be how I went to Canada if I had to fly there so Im sure they will secure those Canadian to/from New York travellers with the new service.
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Jan 24, 2012, 12:00 pm
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I find it odd that Wesjet would invest in a LGA presence. Flights there are limited to a 1500 mile perimeter, so that shuts out anything west of YWG (in particular, Westjet's home base at YYC). So they must only be planning on flights from YYZ, but there's already lots of competition in the YYZ/YTZ-NYC market. Perhaps a pre-emptive strike before Porter gets the preclearance facilities necessary at YTZ before it can fly to LGA?
Jan 27, 2012, 9:35 am
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Service starts June 4. $49 intro fares from YYZ.
Airline challenges competition in biggest transborder business market
CALGARY, Jan. 27, 2012 /CNW/ - WestJet today unveiled details of its scheduled service to New York's LaGuardia airport. In November, WestJet successfully bid for eight slot pairs, bringing WestJet's award-winning guest service to the slot-controlled airport preferred by business travellers.
The airline will launch seven non-stop flights each business day between Toronto and New York City starting June 4, 2012. On July 12, WestJet will increase to eight non-stop flights each business day. Flight times offer business travellers the flexibility and convenience to change plans on their day of travel at no cost.
"This is another significant milestone for WestJet," said John MacLeod, WestJet Vice-President, Network Management and Alliances. "Toronto to New York is the largest transborder market from Canada, and this new non-stop service, offered on our Boeing 737 Next Generation aircraft, will offer business and leisure travellers alike the convenience, comfort and affordability they've been looking for.
"We continue to aggressively target the business traveller, particularly in the eastern triangle," continued John MacLeod. "Just a year ago, WestJet announced its increased service between Toronto-Montreal and Toronto-Ottawa. We believe that our superior operational performance, remarkable guest experience, tailor-made business schedule and now multiple daily flights to New York will meet the needs of those guests flying for business."
The launch of new service comes on the heels of the recently signed code-share agreement with Delta Air Lines. WestJet guests travelling between Toronto and New York will arrive into Delta's main connection area at LaGuardia, allowing connections to Delta's comprehensive U.S. network without additional security screening.
To celebrate the launch, WestJet is introducing a new promotional offer for WestJet Rewards members travelling between Toronto and Montreal and Toronto and Ottawa. For each round-trip flight flown between these eastern triangle cities between January 30 and March 31, 2012, members will earn discounts on future flights to LaGuardia. Members who fly three round-trip flights will earn a free flight (excluding taxes and fees) to the Big Apple. Details and restrictions can be found at westjet.com/rewards.
Full schedule details and great introductory one-way fares from $49 plus applicable taxes and fees are available for a limited time starting Monday, January 30, from both cities. Fares are available by visiting westjet.com, by calling WestJet's Sales Super Centre at 1-888-WESTJET (937-8538) or through your preferred travel agent.
With great options at attractive rates, WestJet Vacations is pleased to offer flexible and high-value vacation packages to New York. Guests can experience this arts and entertainment mecca with the ease and convenience of booking flights and hotels together. For more information, visit westjetvacations.com, contact a WestJet Vacations Experience Specialist at 1-877-737-7001 or see your preferred travel agent. Vacation packages will be available for booking on Monday, January 30.
"With great connections throughout our network, we look forward to being the preferred airline to bring guests to New York," concluded John MacLeod. "With low fares and a commitment to a great guest experience, WestJet is excited to welcome guests on board."
Seasonal service between Newark and Calgary will continue to be part of the airline's schedule. Details of this service can be found on westjet.com.
Airline challenges competition in biggest transborder business market
CALGARY, Jan. 27, 2012 /CNW/ - WestJet today unveiled details of its scheduled service to New York's LaGuardia airport. In November, WestJet successfully bid for eight slot pairs, bringing WestJet's award-winning guest service to the slot-controlled airport preferred by business travellers.
The airline will launch seven non-stop flights each business day between Toronto and New York City starting June 4, 2012. On July 12, WestJet will increase to eight non-stop flights each business day. Flight times offer business travellers the flexibility and convenience to change plans on their day of travel at no cost.
"This is another significant milestone for WestJet," said John MacLeod, WestJet Vice-President, Network Management and Alliances. "Toronto to New York is the largest transborder market from Canada, and this new non-stop service, offered on our Boeing 737 Next Generation aircraft, will offer business and leisure travellers alike the convenience, comfort and affordability they've been looking for.
"We continue to aggressively target the business traveller, particularly in the eastern triangle," continued John MacLeod. "Just a year ago, WestJet announced its increased service between Toronto-Montreal and Toronto-Ottawa. We believe that our superior operational performance, remarkable guest experience, tailor-made business schedule and now multiple daily flights to New York will meet the needs of those guests flying for business."
The launch of new service comes on the heels of the recently signed code-share agreement with Delta Air Lines. WestJet guests travelling between Toronto and New York will arrive into Delta's main connection area at LaGuardia, allowing connections to Delta's comprehensive U.S. network without additional security screening.
To celebrate the launch, WestJet is introducing a new promotional offer for WestJet Rewards members travelling between Toronto and Montreal and Toronto and Ottawa. For each round-trip flight flown between these eastern triangle cities between January 30 and March 31, 2012, members will earn discounts on future flights to LaGuardia. Members who fly three round-trip flights will earn a free flight (excluding taxes and fees) to the Big Apple. Details and restrictions can be found at westjet.com/rewards.
Full schedule details and great introductory one-way fares from $49 plus applicable taxes and fees are available for a limited time starting Monday, January 30, from both cities. Fares are available by visiting westjet.com, by calling WestJet's Sales Super Centre at 1-888-WESTJET (937-8538) or through your preferred travel agent.
With great options at attractive rates, WestJet Vacations is pleased to offer flexible and high-value vacation packages to New York. Guests can experience this arts and entertainment mecca with the ease and convenience of booking flights and hotels together. For more information, visit westjetvacations.com, contact a WestJet Vacations Experience Specialist at 1-877-737-7001 or see your preferred travel agent. Vacation packages will be available for booking on Monday, January 30.
"With great connections throughout our network, we look forward to being the preferred airline to bring guests to New York," concluded John MacLeod. "With low fares and a commitment to a great guest experience, WestJet is excited to welcome guests on board."
Seasonal service between Newark and Calgary will continue to be part of the airline's schedule. Details of this service can be found on westjet.com.