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envoy245 Mar 24, 2023 9:51 pm

Today I was able to get an early morning appointment in DC for next week. Whenever I've called & appointments with earlier dates / closer cities are available, by the time the rep enters my info, the appt is no longer available.


Originally Posted by anandrg (Post 35083474)
This whole system is absolutely designed to ensure maximum stress and minimum results. Like I've said before DO NOT apply online - be grateful that option is currently closed..

I'm glad I didn't apply online when it was available. Even with expedited, I risked the passport arriving days before or after my travel date. I''m reading the nightmares of those turned away at their appointment because their passport has been shipped & they aren't notified. The current process of getting a passport within 6 weeks of travel isn't one I would wish on anyone.

Section 107 Mar 25, 2023 11:02 am


Originally Posted by italdesign (Post 35110434)
Thanks for recommending expedited in my situation.

Can folks who renewed their passport recently confirm if they got old passport back?

Yes, you will receive the canceled passport book back. It arrives separately, usually within a week of the new passport, but sometimes it can take a little longer.

eerickso Mar 25, 2023 1:28 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 35114421)

i recently received my old passport. In previous decades the former (expired) passport had a big hole punch in the front. Now my passport (issued 2009) has zero hole punch. I’m surprised. Is that the new normal?

I got mine back with two holes punched in it, just as in the past.

asf-07 Mar 26, 2023 11:57 am

I have a standard processing application submitted on Jan 29th that is still listed as 'Adjudication'. Am I right in assuming that if I change the request from standard to expedited processing, my position resets in the queue as if I just submitted a new expedited application today?

sullim4 Mar 26, 2023 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by asf-07 (Post 35118195)
I have a standard processing application submitted on Jan 29th that is still listed as 'Adjudication'. Am I right in assuming that if I change the request from standard to expedited processing, my position resets in the queue as if I just submitted a new expedited application today?

Assuming you submitted online - it does NOT reset your position in the queue. Quite the contrary, it seems to wake your application back up and get it going. I'd do it during business hours on Monday so that it floats to the top of whatever adjudicator's queue you've been assigned to.

I did this on Friday 3/10 in the afternoon, and by early Monday morning, I was in fulfillment. That said.... I've been in fulfillment since and I've since contacted my HoR member to see if any of her staffers can do anything. This week marks 13 weeks of processing for me after being quoted 6-9 back in December.

asf-07 Mar 27, 2023 9:12 am


Originally Posted by sullim4 (Post 35118355)
Assuming you submitted online - it does NOT reset your position in the queue. Quite the contrary, it seems to wake your application back up and get it going. I'd do it during business hours on Monday so that it floats to the top of whatever adjudicator's queue you've been assigned to.

I did this on Friday 3/10 in the afternoon, and by early Monday morning, I was in fulfillment. That said.... I've been in fulfillment since and I've since contacted my HoR member to see if any of her staffers can do anything. This week marks 13 weeks of processing for me after being quoted 6-9 back in December.


great, thanks!

JaneStarr Mar 27, 2023 9:45 am


Originally Posted by JaneStarr (Post 35066618)
PSA: This new error message popped up this morning for me.
This message did not appear through last Friday when my application status continually showed “not available”.
This afternoon, my application status is finally showing as follows:


Frustrating that USPS tracking showed my renewal application received on 2/8/23 vs the 3/5 listed in status.Apparently, the 5-7 week “expedited” clock didn’t begin until almost 25 days after the USPS delivered.
I used the online form to fill out application and mailed in on 2/6/23 for Large passport book and card. Paid for Expedited service and delivery.
Locator number is 69: National Passport Center in Portsmouth, NH 03801

No status update email was received. Bottom of application status page this afternoon suddenly has my email address filled in but says I didn’t sign up for email. I just registered my email addy a second time for updates. What poor communications. Will report when status updates to approved and passport is received.
Jane

To close the loop on this:
Paid for expedited renewal of large passport book & card. Also paid for 1-2 day return mail.
USPS tracking showed Application rec’d on 2/8/23
Status remained “not available” until 3/6/23.
On 3/6/23, status changed to: ‘in process” and “received on 3/5/23”
On 3/14/23 at 9 AM status changed to “approved” with a 69 locator number (Nat’l passport Center in Portsmouth,NH) and a blank space for ETA.
3/14/23 9pm status updated to show: “You should receive your passport book and card on or around 03/17/2023.”

3/15/23 Passport book delivered (USPS Informed Delivery showed it coming from Tucson, AZ, but return address on envelope was NH)
3/20/23 Passport card received
3/27/23 Envelope, presumably with Old passport book & card, showing from Sterling, VA in my USPS Informed delivery.

Summary:
Expedited renewal application with 1-2 day delivery mailed in on 2/6/23

Took 5 weeks (35 days) from USPS delivery of application to receipt of passport book.
Processing time for expedited applications was promised for 5-7 weeks when I applied in early Feb, so they made that deadline.

At no time did I receive any email updates of status. I was signed up and did check my Spam/junk mail regularly.
Biggest issue was with poor communication.
Jane

critten Mar 27, 2023 7:47 pm

i am helping someone with a new passport in process 3/10/23, expedited, 69 locator too. travel 4/17 put them right at 5 weeks. it was tight but had a lost ups package with birth certificate and usps appt at post office had the post office literally burn down(literally) so those delayed me by weeks (rescheduled a week and a half later at a different one). Classic. just praying but your info definitely gives me some hope.


Originally Posted by JaneStarr (Post 35120487)
To close the loop on this:
Paid for expedited renewal of large passport book & card. Also paid for 1-2 day return mail.
USPS tracking showed Application rec’d on 2/8/23
Status remained “not available” until 3/6/23.
On 3/6/23, status changed to: ‘in process” and “received on 3/5/23”
On 3/14/23 at 9 AM status changed to “approved” with a 69 locator number (Nat’l passport Center in Portsmouth,NH) and a blank space for ETA.
3/14/23 9pm status updated to show: “You should receive your passport book and card on or around 03/17/2023.”

3/15/23 Passport book delivered (USPS Informed Delivery showed it coming from Tucson, AZ, but return address on envelope was NH)
3/20/23 Passport card received
3/27/23 Envelope, presumably with Old passport book & card, showing from Sterling, VA in my USPS Informed delivery.

Summary:
Expedited renewal application with 1-2 day delivery mailed in on 2/6/23

Took 5 weeks (35 days) from USPS delivery of application to receipt of passport book.
Processing time for expedited applications was promised for 5-7 weeks when I applied in early Feb, so they made that deadline.

At no time did I receive any email updates of status. I was signed up and did check my Spam/junk mail regularly.
Biggest issue was with poor communication.
Jane


gaobest Mar 27, 2023 10:37 pm


Originally Posted by eerickso (Post 35115996)
I got mine back with two holes punched in it, just as in the past.

wow that’s what I would expect. I was stunned for the zero holes.


Originally Posted by Section 107 (Post 35115701)
Yes, you will receive the canceled passport book back. It arrives separately, usually within a week of the new passport, but sometimes it can take a little longer.

This. I did expedite / 1-2 day delivery and indeed the new passport arrived via Express priority mail in good time and the old passport arrived separately by first class (?) mail a few weeks later. I’m not really sure what to do with the old passport. I have other old passports. Seriously what use are they yet I’m not going to toss them.

JaneStarr Mar 28, 2023 5:42 am


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 35122357)
wow that’s what I would expect. I was stunned for the zero holes.


This. I did expedite / 1-2 day delivery and indeed the new passport arrived via Express priority mail in good time and the old passport arrived separately by first class (?) mail a few weeks later. I’m not really sure what to do with the old passport. I have other old passports. Seriously what use are they yet I’m not going to toss them.

My passport & card were also returned with zero holes yesterday — twelve days after new passport arrived. I don’t have any unexpired visa stamps in it, so I probably didn’t need it back. Will stick in safe deposit box. Not sure how I would safely dispose of it.

hfly Mar 28, 2023 7:17 am

For many/most people they are momentos documenting the travel that you have done, all the stamps and history. I get a kick looking at past East German stamps, Yugoslavian visas and the like. For others they are vital proof of entering and leaving countries for a variety of reasons.

As this thread is now past 2300 posts and I have not posted in awhile, here is the advice I give to anyone who needs to get their passport relatively quickly.............


1) Assuming you live in or near one of the "centers", wait until you are within 14 days, show proof of travel, make an appointment and go get it in person, you will get it same or next day.

2) If you are going abroad, have enough time left on it and are going to be abroad for at least 2 weeks in one country. Apply for your passport from the Embassy of the country you will be in.

I would not mess with mail in and the like.

CLEguy Mar 28, 2023 7:48 am


Originally Posted by critten (Post 35122070)
i am helping someone with a new passport in process 3/10/23, expedited, 69 locator too. travel 4/17 put them right at 5 weeks. it was tight but had a lost ups package with birth certificate and usps appt at post office had the post office literally burn down(literally) so those delayed me by weeks (rescheduled a week and a half later at a different one). Classic. just praying but your info definitely gives me some hope.

I'm in almost exactly your situation to the day: In process 3/9, travel 4/25, 69 locator (nice). Hopeful it comes through without the need to go through the hassle and stress of an in-person appointment somewhere.

Section 107 Mar 28, 2023 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 35122357)
. Seriously what use are they yet I’m not going to toss them.

As noted by another, there are lots of situations where having expired passports is helpful. Common situations springing to mind are where someone is required to document physical presence say, for establishing eligibility for citizenship, maintaining LPR status, or taxation situations. Also for documenting one did not overstay. They also come in very handy during national security background investigations. Just those situations annually cover millions of use cases. There are other use cases, too.

worldiswide Mar 28, 2023 8:51 pm

I've got a photo box filled with expired passports. They are reminders of a wonderful travel life and there are some great visa stamps..Christmas in Bethlehem Easter Island for two. It used to be easy to peruse a passport and know when and where you had been. I wish or maybe there is a way to print out all the entry and exits now that many are done electronically and there are no stamps.

Thanks for all who have posted. While we definitely see outliers it does seem like the stated wait times are mostly met. It also appears that this is getting more news attention and being worked on. I would presume the number of people requesting passports will continue to be grow.

GUWonder Mar 29, 2023 3:16 am


Originally Posted by Section 107 (Post 35123955)
As noted by another, there are lots of situations where having expired passports is helpful. Common situations springing to mind are where someone is required to document physical presence say, for establishing eligibility for citizenship, maintaining LPR status, or taxation situations. Also for documenting one did not overstay. They also come in very handy during national security background investigations. Just those situations annually cover millions of use cases. There are other use cases, too.

I suggest keeping old passports for much the same reason as the above and others. I am still using a grandparent’s last diplomatic passport to make life easier for that deceased grandparent’s relatives. Never know if the old passports will still be useful for the person’s great-great-great grandchildren in some way beyond just being a souvenir.


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