Running out of overhead space
#31
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Such people who lie about FARs should be severely punished. That's gross abuse of authority.
#32
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This is simply not true!! You are allowed one bag and a SMALL carry on. The agents shouldn't let these items get by you. When 173 people feel they are too good to place that "small" carry on beneath the seat in front of them, you run out of space quickly plus winter coats. I am so sure American NEVER has these issues. Give me a break!! My AA friends complain about the SAME things!!
#33
Join Date: Dec 2005
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The allowed US size requirement for carry-ons is higher than other airlines:
US Size requirements
Up to 51 in/129 cm (11 x 14 x 26 in or 28 x 35 x 66 cm). I think a 26" suitcase is way too big. I'm surprised the number crunchers didn't think to reduce this to get more checked baggage fees. No weight limit mentioned.
Delta:
Weigh less than 40 pounds (18 kg).
Not exceed 45 inches (length + width + height).
Fit easily in our SizeCheck® unit (approximately 22"x14"x9").
Fit in an overhead bin or underneath the seat in front of you.
AA:
You can carry on one bag plus one personal item per passenger as long as:
They weigh no more than 40 lbs/18 kgs
The bag is no more than 45 inches and the personal item is no more than 36 inches when you add the length + width + height so that it fits in an overhead bin or under the seat
US Size requirements
Up to 51 in/129 cm (11 x 14 x 26 in or 28 x 35 x 66 cm). I think a 26" suitcase is way too big. I'm surprised the number crunchers didn't think to reduce this to get more checked baggage fees. No weight limit mentioned.
Delta:
Weigh less than 40 pounds (18 kg).
Not exceed 45 inches (length + width + height).
Fit easily in our SizeCheck® unit (approximately 22"x14"x9").
Fit in an overhead bin or underneath the seat in front of you.
AA:
You can carry on one bag plus one personal item per passenger as long as:
They weigh no more than 40 lbs/18 kgs
The bag is no more than 45 inches and the personal item is no more than 36 inches when you add the length + width + height so that it fits in an overhead bin or under the seat
#34
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I always wondered what the cost/benefit tradeoff would be for them staffing a baggage handler on the plane during boarding to help with overheads. Seems to me they could cut turnaround time in half if a professional was grabbing bags from the farthest-most back passenger (the critical path person, so to speak) at any given time and stuffing them up while shooing them into their seats.
#35
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I always wondered what the cost/benefit tradeoff would be for them staffing a baggage handler on the plane during boarding to help with overheads. Seems to me they could cut turnaround time in half if a professional was grabbing bags from the farthest-most back passenger (the critical path person, so to speak) at any given time and stuffing them up while shooing them into their seats.
#36
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Since bag charges people DO seem to try bringing more stuff on board. AA seems to have people at the security lineup pulling people out and making them check bags that don't fit overhead requirements. UA also seems to enforce this more pre-security. US needs to do that too in order to try and reduce the likelihood of too many huge bags overhead.
Moreover, how exactly would you do this absent hubs or airports where the entire terminal beyond security is dedicated to one airline? I would summarily ignore an employee or contractor of airline X when flying airline Y. The number of terminals where US is the sole tenant has got to be pretty small--one pier in DCA, LGA, and ???
What they need to do is boot people at the gate trying to roll on the kitchen sink.
#37
Join Date: Jan 2005
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This is simply not true!! You are allowed one bag and a SMALL carry on. The agents shouldn't let these items get by you. When 173 people feel they are too good to place that "small" carry on beneath the seat in front of them, you run out of space quickly plus winter coats. I am so sure American NEVER has these issues. Give me a break!! My AA friends complain about the SAME things!!
I sometimes have taken out and auctioned out the small bags, coats, etc. that should go under the seat in the past to avoid having to check my rollaboard in certain situations, though the majority of the time I just have to check it and wait at baggage claim.
#38
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I can put whatever I want in the overhead. There is no FAR that says I have to place one under my seat. If I want to place two overhead, thats my prerogative. If there is not enough space, US needs to address this by changing the allowance of two bags, or at least enforce their current rules on size.
#39
Join Date: Jan 2008
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I can put whatever I want in the overhead.
I am CP for 10 years running and Plat/EXP for the last five as well. I never travel without my briefcase underneath the seat. As others have posted - just wait till take-off and slide it behind your knees. And please, figure out some geometry and put the roll a board in wheels first. Why is this so hard?
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#40
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I was on a red eye from LAX on Monday to CLT and they announced before boarding that anyone in zones 6,7,and 8 would have to gate check their luggage.
#41
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Give me a break. I am constantly amazed at the self stuffed, self entitled few who think they own the plane. What is it going to hurt to try and make the experience a bit more pleasant for all. I have a visual of the obliviate who will stick his roll a board in sideways on the long side, put the laptop behind that and then the coat - voila - a whole overhead taken up - now, where is the FA with my pre-departure drink?
I am CP for 10 years running and Plat/EXP for the last five as well. I never travel without my briefcase underneath the seat. As others have posted - just wait till take-off and slide it behind your knees. And please, figure out some geometry and put the roll a board in wheels first. Why is this so hard?
I am CP for 10 years running and Plat/EXP for the last five as well. I never travel without my briefcase underneath the seat. As others have posted - just wait till take-off and slide it behind your knees. And please, figure out some geometry and put the roll a board in wheels first. Why is this so hard?
#42
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When I take mine on, I have put it in sideways, it won't fit otherwise. Most times I prefer to check, but once in a while I do carry it on, and I always check with the check-in folks ahead of time to make sure it is OK.
#43
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It may have been a 26", but going forward, it's 22" max (I think this is the popular domestic size carry-on). Not sure, but I think it's the A321 that a 22" will fit overhead compartment with the wheels facing out.
From website re carry-on baggage:
From website re carry-on baggage:
Size requirements*
Beginning February 1, 2009, up to 45 in/115 cm (14 x 9 x 22 in or 36 x 23 x 56 cm)
Beginning February 1, 2009, up to 40 lbs/18 kg
Beginning February 1, 2009, up to 45 in/115 cm (14 x 9 x 22 in or 36 x 23 x 56 cm)
Beginning February 1, 2009, up to 40 lbs/18 kg
#44
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I'm pretty certain that all the Airbii will fit a 22" roller wheels in or out.
#45
Join Date: Dec 2005
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They must have just changed that. It wasn't there a couple of days ago when I posted about 26" being too big. Let's hope they enforce it.