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Update 08APR2014: Star Alliance Awards must have been booked by March 30, 2014. They are no longer available through US. This thread is mostly useful for historic purposes, and discussing issues such as schedule changes/route changes that affect FTers existing *A awards booked before 3/31/2014.
Discussion on using US miles to book oneworld awards is available here.
If you are looking for discussion on US's new partner awards that use various partners not in oneworld (many of whom are former *A partners), see the devoted thread on using US miles to book NON-oneworld partners here.
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Update 07JAN14: American Airlines award tickets bookable online on usairways.com or through reservation.
Please see the devoted thread on using US miles to book AA here.
Discussion on using US miles to book oneworld awards is available here.
If you are looking for discussion on US's new partner awards that use various partners not in oneworld (many of whom are former *A partners), see the devoted thread on using US miles to book NON-oneworld partners here.
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Update 07JAN14: American Airlines award tickets bookable online on usairways.com or through reservation.
- Award travel must be wholly on American Airlines or a combination of American Airlines and US Airways.
- American Airlines awards cannot be combined with any of our current partner.
- American Airlines award travel chart (PDF)
Please see the devoted thread on using US miles to book AA here.
Star Alliance Award Bookings Using US Airways Miles - FAQ and Help Thread [MERGED]
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it must vary I guess. I know in Australia it is common for insurance to fly you home in the same class of travel booked.
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Hmm, I am amazed you didn't take out any travel insurance when travelling to the African continent for a couple of months. What were your plans if you ended up in a Kenyan hospital and needed airlifting from Kenya to the UK or South Africa for treatment? It's not as rare as you think with car accidents and the violence that you have unfortunately experienced.
Good luck and I hope US Airways are able to help out, but I wouldn't be holding my breath.
Good luck and I hope US Airways are able to help out, but I wouldn't be holding my breath.
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Hi everyone,
I booked a *A award flight USA-North Asia in business class back in February, and I just found out there were a couple of schedule changes, which messed up my booking.
From what I read, US can't fix any *A flights anymore with the exception of a few airlines, but unfortunately I'm flying on UA, NH, and OZ, which are not dealing with US anymore I believe.
So instead of trying to fix it somehow, I'd rather re-book the whole journey on OW carriers, as my destinations are all served well by OW airlines.
I have a few questions about going down this road before I commit though:
1) The required miles for USA-North Asia in J has increased by 20k miles since I booked my award flight.
Is US going to ask me for the additional miles if I want to re-book the whole thing with OW airlines?
I'm not sure how this is going to work as the flight schedule changes are the reason I need to make this change.
2) This thread has too many posts so I couldn't read the entire thread, however I'm wondering if there was any case where someone fixed a *A award booking successfully after March 30 due to a schedule change.
3) Other than re-booking the whole journey with OW carriers, is there any other option I have at this point?
Thank you-!
I booked a *A award flight USA-North Asia in business class back in February, and I just found out there were a couple of schedule changes, which messed up my booking.
From what I read, US can't fix any *A flights anymore with the exception of a few airlines, but unfortunately I'm flying on UA, NH, and OZ, which are not dealing with US anymore I believe.
So instead of trying to fix it somehow, I'd rather re-book the whole journey on OW carriers, as my destinations are all served well by OW airlines.
I have a few questions about going down this road before I commit though:
1) The required miles for USA-North Asia in J has increased by 20k miles since I booked my award flight.
Is US going to ask me for the additional miles if I want to re-book the whole thing with OW airlines?
I'm not sure how this is going to work as the flight schedule changes are the reason I need to make this change.
2) This thread has too many posts so I couldn't read the entire thread, however I'm wondering if there was any case where someone fixed a *A award booking successfully after March 30 due to a schedule change.
3) Other than re-booking the whole journey with OW carriers, is there any other option I have at this point?
Thank you-!
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In Dec 2012 usdm changed my parents flights after they started travel when they missed a bkk - hkg flight and bought their own.
It took much supervisor discussion and $150 change fee on each ticket.
I was a chairman at the time
a couple of things.
very sorry to hear what happened.
there is no harm trying to see what US Airways can do. There have been I think two cases where I have seen USDM change an award after travel had commenced. Both times IIRC were after serious medical issues. No harm trying.
secondly, this might have to be a case for your travel insurance. (will have been pre-purchased before you left)
Contact them and see what they will offer you to get back home.
seek consular assistance if you are stuck.
It took much supervisor discussion and $150 change fee on each ticket.
I was a chairman at the time
Wondering if anyone could offer any advice:
I booked a *A rewards flight from California to Nairobi, Kenya w/ Dividend Miles before US Air joined OneWorld. I have already flown the departure leg and am currently in Kenya. My current return leg is scheduled for Aug 12. My problem is that I want to change this to an earlier return date. I know that the rules do not allow any changes to itinerary after beginning any leg of the reward trip but:
- I was robbed at gunpoint here in Nairobi. Lost my passport and many valuables (laptop, phone, etc). Just got a replacement passport and I'd like to return hope ASAP.
- Other security concerns. There have been small-scale terrorist bombings recently in Nairobi and elsewhere in Kenya, another big reason to return home earlier.
I know a sob story might not be able to take on strict airline rules (especially because most of my return flight is through former *A parters: Ethiopian, Lufthansa) but is there anything I can do? I got a 'your flights have changed' alert that I have yet to approve (seems to just be a minor change: one flight gets in 30 mins earlier), can I do anything with that? Any sort of travel accident insurance I can look into? If I just have to buy a separate return flight, is there anyway to salvage some of my spent miles?
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
I booked a *A rewards flight from California to Nairobi, Kenya w/ Dividend Miles before US Air joined OneWorld. I have already flown the departure leg and am currently in Kenya. My current return leg is scheduled for Aug 12. My problem is that I want to change this to an earlier return date. I know that the rules do not allow any changes to itinerary after beginning any leg of the reward trip but:
- I was robbed at gunpoint here in Nairobi. Lost my passport and many valuables (laptop, phone, etc). Just got a replacement passport and I'd like to return hope ASAP.
- Other security concerns. There have been small-scale terrorist bombings recently in Nairobi and elsewhere in Kenya, another big reason to return home earlier.
I know a sob story might not be able to take on strict airline rules (especially because most of my return flight is through former *A parters: Ethiopian, Lufthansa) but is there anything I can do? I got a 'your flights have changed' alert that I have yet to approve (seems to just be a minor change: one flight gets in 30 mins earlier), can I do anything with that? Any sort of travel accident insurance I can look into? If I just have to buy a separate return flight, is there anyway to salvage some of my spent miles?
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
very sorry to hear what happened.
there is no harm trying to see what US Airways can do. There have been I think two cases where I have seen USDM change an award after travel had commenced. Both times IIRC were after serious medical issues. No harm trying.
secondly, this might have to be a case for your travel insurance. (will have been pre-purchased before you left)
Contact them and see what they will offer you to get back home.
seek consular assistance if you are stuck.
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Posts: 775
Thanks very much to all for the advice. Will at least talk to US and see what I can do. That travel advisory could lead to something.
Will also look into travel insurance. Didn't purchase any extra before-hand but my credit card does provide some basic accident insurance I might be able to play with.
Fortunately, I was able to cancel credit cards easily and have some replacements on the way so I'm not totally stranded.
Will also look into travel insurance. Didn't purchase any extra before-hand but my credit card does provide some basic accident insurance I might be able to play with.
Fortunately, I was able to cancel credit cards easily and have some replacements on the way so I'm not totally stranded.
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Today I tried to look at my reservation , I found my SK flight got schedule change which is only 5 mins different, same flight number..and it doesn't affect my trip at all. I called US AIR.. they told me that my ticket doesn't need to be reissued.. and I checked on saudi website the ticket is still showing the original flight schedule... Are they right for no need to reissue ticket?
Thanks
Thanks
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1) The required miles for USA-North Asia in J has increased by 20k miles since I booked my award flight.
Is US going to ask me for the additional miles if I want to re-book the whole thing with OW airlines?
I'm not sure how this is going to work as the flight schedule changes are the reason I need to make this change.
2) This thread has too many posts so I couldn't read the entire thread, however I'm wondering if there was any case where someone fixed a *A award booking successfully after March 30 due to a schedule change.
3) Other than re-booking the whole journey with OW carriers, is there any other option I have at this point?
Is US going to ask me for the additional miles if I want to re-book the whole thing with OW airlines?
I'm not sure how this is going to work as the flight schedule changes are the reason I need to make this change.
2) This thread has too many posts so I couldn't read the entire thread, however I'm wondering if there was any case where someone fixed a *A award booking successfully after March 30 due to a schedule change.
3) Other than re-booking the whole journey with OW carriers, is there any other option I have at this point?
2) yes
3) award with remaining US partners
Yes.
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Has anyone had to change their flight mid-trip for something beyond their control? (i.e. weather, flight cancellation etc.) How was it handled? Did you have to book OneWorld flights as a substitute?
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Month in advance you're on your own, US can't wave a wand and make *A inventory magically appear any more.
What's the specific situation? The cases of "OMG weather the day I am flying" and "OMG the airline cancelled my flight 6 months from now" are substantially different.
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Day of flight it's usually handled by the operating airline (they're responsible).
Month in advance you're on your own, US can't wave a wand and make *A inventory magically appear any more.
What's the specific situation? The cases of "OMG weather the day I am flying" and "OMG the airline cancelled my flight 6 months from now" are substantially different.
Month in advance you're on your own, US can't wave a wand and make *A inventory magically appear any more.
What's the specific situation? The cases of "OMG weather the day I am flying" and "OMG the airline cancelled my flight 6 months from now" are substantially different.
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aau, did you get this sorted out? I just looked at my upcoming itinerary for a trip from EWR-TPE the long way and the last leg is OZ ICN-TPE. They moved that flight up so my cnx is only 45 minutes in ICN. There is another OZ flight 4 hours later that I hope they let me switch to.
Thanks.
Rich
Thanks.
Rich
I am willing to take the risk of missing my connection in ICN. I've transited through there before, so I think we can make a 45 minute connection. However, I have a few concerns.
When I show up to the airport to leave from EWR, will my ticket be valid even though I have an illegal connection? I don't want to get to EWR and have issues.
My connection is going from LH from MUC to an OZ flight (in business).
If I can just do carry on, I should be fine, but LH is notorious about carryons, but are they as strict with business class tickets?
If I miss my connection, would OZ still accommodate me on the next flight? I don't care about class of service.
If I miss the connection, would my return flight on Eva still be valid?
I can pay for my one-way flight from ICN-TPE if I miss the cnx, but I don't want my return flight to be cancelled.
Any thoughts would be helpful.
On another note, can anyone tell me if there is availability of any oneworld flights from ICN-TPE on June 29th after noon or on June 30th for 2 people?
Thanks.
Rich
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I called OZ to see if they could just switch me to the later flight, which I saw had 2 award seats available in business. They said they couldn't and I would have to call US Air. They said they would leave the ticket as is.
I am willing to take the risk of missing my connection in ICN. I've transited through there before, so I think we can make a 45 minute connection. However, I have a few concerns.
When I show up to the airport to leave from EWR, will my ticket be valid even though I have an illegal connection? I don't want to get to EWR and have issues.
My connection is going from LH from MUC to an OZ flight (in business).
If I can just do carry on, I should be fine, but LH is notorious about carryons, but are they as strict with business class tickets?
If I miss my connection, would OZ still accommodate me on the next flight? I don't care about class of service.
If I miss the connection, would my return flight on Eva still be valid?
I can pay for my one-way flight from ICN-TPE if I miss the cnx, but I don't want my return flight to be cancelled.
Any thoughts would be helpful.
Rich
I am willing to take the risk of missing my connection in ICN. I've transited through there before, so I think we can make a 45 minute connection. However, I have a few concerns.
When I show up to the airport to leave from EWR, will my ticket be valid even though I have an illegal connection? I don't want to get to EWR and have issues.
My connection is going from LH from MUC to an OZ flight (in business).
If I can just do carry on, I should be fine, but LH is notorious about carryons, but are they as strict with business class tickets?
If I miss my connection, would OZ still accommodate me on the next flight? I don't care about class of service.
If I miss the connection, would my return flight on Eva still be valid?
I can pay for my one-way flight from ICN-TPE if I miss the cnx, but I don't want my return flight to be cancelled.
Any thoughts would be helpful.
Rich
this applies even if OZ accommodates you on another flight, because you never know for sure the agent has rebooked you correctly and hasn't 'no showed' you (which would cancel the rest of the ticket).
buying your own ticket (if that happens) puts you more at risk. always call USDM to update them, and ensure that whatever you're doing is ok. (it would ideally be better for OZ to help you and do the rebooking)
hand luggage on Lufthansa premium classes shouldn't be a problem
I called OZ to see if they could just switch me to the later flight, which I saw had 2 award seats available in business. They said they couldn't and I would have to call US Air. They said they would leave the ticket as is.
I am willing to take the risk of missing my connection in ICN. I've transited through there before, so I think we can make a 45 minute connection. However, I have a few concerns.
When I show up to the airport to leave from EWR, will my ticket be valid even though I have an illegal connection? I don't want to get to EWR and have issues.
My connection is going from LH from MUC to an OZ flight (in business).
If I can just do carry on, I should be fine, but LH is notorious about carryons, but are they as strict with business class tickets?
If I miss my connection, would OZ still accommodate me on the next flight? I don't care about class of service.
If I miss the connection, would my return flight on Eva still be valid?
I can pay for my one-way flight from ICN-TPE if I miss the cnx, but I don't want my return flight to be cancelled.
Any thoughts would be helpful.
On another note, can anyone tell me if there is availability of any oneworld flights from ICN-TPE on June 29th after noon or on June 30th for 2 people?
Thanks.
Rich
I am willing to take the risk of missing my connection in ICN. I've transited through there before, so I think we can make a 45 minute connection. However, I have a few concerns.
When I show up to the airport to leave from EWR, will my ticket be valid even though I have an illegal connection? I don't want to get to EWR and have issues.
My connection is going from LH from MUC to an OZ flight (in business).
If I can just do carry on, I should be fine, but LH is notorious about carryons, but are they as strict with business class tickets?
If I miss my connection, would OZ still accommodate me on the next flight? I don't care about class of service.
If I miss the connection, would my return flight on Eva still be valid?
I can pay for my one-way flight from ICN-TPE if I miss the cnx, but I don't want my return flight to be cancelled.
Any thoughts would be helpful.
On another note, can anyone tell me if there is availability of any oneworld flights from ICN-TPE on June 29th after noon or on June 30th for 2 people?
Thanks.
Rich
I'd say you'll be tight with 45 mins, but should not be dangerous. Furthermore - once you have started flying the ticket, doesn't the airline take control of it? Ie, if they need to rebook you, isn't it out of US's control at that point anyhow and so, shouldn't they no longer care?
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As many posters say, it might good be possible to make the connection, if everything goes smooth.
If there are irregularities, the operating carrier *could* refuse to pay for rebookings, accomodation, etc. as the ticket was not issued correctly and the minimum connection was not obeyed... It could be, but does not has to be this way... So if possible, I would change the connection in advance.
If there are irregularities, the operating carrier *could* refuse to pay for rebookings, accomodation, etc. as the ticket was not issued correctly and the minimum connection was not obeyed... It could be, but does not has to be this way... So if possible, I would change the connection in advance.
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Well, here's an interesting one. I've got a wonderfully convoluted pre-merger Star Alliance award booked, for 120k miles in J, leaving in the US in two days and going to Asia like this:
LAS-YYZ (AC)
YYZ-MUC (AC) - 9 day stopover in Munich
MUC-BKK (TG)
BKK-PNH (TG)
Then I return in September like this:
PNH-ICN (OZ)
ICN-VVO (OZ) - 23 hours in Vladivostok
VVO-PEK (CA)
PEK- LAX (UA)
LAX-PHX (US)
PHX-LAS (US)
Yes, it's one segment too many, originally it went LAX-LAS but that flight was cancelled I think. It's been changed a few times due to schedule changes.
Here's what is happening now. US just called me and said that Air China no longer flies VVO-PEK. Flight cancelled. She asked if I need to go to VVO, I told her I did want to go there. (It was a deliberate 23 hour stop in a city I've never been to). She said she would look into this and get back to me.
As far as I can tell, no former Star Alliance partner with whom US Airways has a current relationship flies out of VVO anymore.
When she calls back, I am going to suggest keeping everything unchanged up to VVO, then routing me on OneWorld carriers on the way back to LAS from there-- VVO-NRT on S7 is available and then NRT-LAX-LAS on AA (though this is available only at standard/high level).
I know that US doesn't allow combining *A and OW on the same ticket, but do you folks think it's something they COULD do if they wanted to? They have the award inventory up to VVO on *A, I'm ticketed on those flights, I would hope they would feel an obligation to get me back home from VVO, and it seems they have the OW inventory to do this.
Should I push for that, or is it a lost cause? Is there some reason why US would be unable (vs. unwilling) to do combine carriers from both alliances? Could/would they do it as two separate award tickets (one ticket to VVO on *A and one from VVO-LAS on OW) and just agree not to charge me the extra miles?
I don't know what other options I would have aside from canceling the ticket, or maybe they will try to route me back from PNH directly on former *A carriers, skipping VVO, but that will be hard now that they no longer partner with EVA or OZ or UA.
Let me know what you think my chances are of getting them to combine *A and OW, or issue me two tickets for no extra miles charge, due to the dropped route. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.
LAS-YYZ (AC)
YYZ-MUC (AC) - 9 day stopover in Munich
MUC-BKK (TG)
BKK-PNH (TG)
Then I return in September like this:
PNH-ICN (OZ)
ICN-VVO (OZ) - 23 hours in Vladivostok
VVO-PEK (CA)
PEK- LAX (UA)
LAX-PHX (US)
PHX-LAS (US)
Yes, it's one segment too many, originally it went LAX-LAS but that flight was cancelled I think. It's been changed a few times due to schedule changes.
Here's what is happening now. US just called me and said that Air China no longer flies VVO-PEK. Flight cancelled. She asked if I need to go to VVO, I told her I did want to go there. (It was a deliberate 23 hour stop in a city I've never been to). She said she would look into this and get back to me.
As far as I can tell, no former Star Alliance partner with whom US Airways has a current relationship flies out of VVO anymore.
When she calls back, I am going to suggest keeping everything unchanged up to VVO, then routing me on OneWorld carriers on the way back to LAS from there-- VVO-NRT on S7 is available and then NRT-LAX-LAS on AA (though this is available only at standard/high level).
I know that US doesn't allow combining *A and OW on the same ticket, but do you folks think it's something they COULD do if they wanted to? They have the award inventory up to VVO on *A, I'm ticketed on those flights, I would hope they would feel an obligation to get me back home from VVO, and it seems they have the OW inventory to do this.
Should I push for that, or is it a lost cause? Is there some reason why US would be unable (vs. unwilling) to do combine carriers from both alliances? Could/would they do it as two separate award tickets (one ticket to VVO on *A and one from VVO-LAS on OW) and just agree not to charge me the extra miles?
I don't know what other options I would have aside from canceling the ticket, or maybe they will try to route me back from PNH directly on former *A carriers, skipping VVO, but that will be hard now that they no longer partner with EVA or OZ or UA.
Let me know what you think my chances are of getting them to combine *A and OW, or issue me two tickets for no extra miles charge, due to the dropped route. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.