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Update 08APR2014: Star Alliance Awards must have been booked by March 30, 2014. They are no longer available through US. This thread is mostly useful for historic purposes, and discussing issues such as schedule changes/route changes that affect FTers existing *A awards booked before 3/31/2014.

Discussion on using US miles to book oneworld awards is available here.

If you are looking for discussion on US's new partner awards that use various partners not in oneworld (many of whom are former *A partners), see the devoted thread on using US miles to book NON-oneworld partners here.

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Update 07JAN14: American Airlines award tickets bookable online on usairways.com or through reservation.

  • Award travel must be wholly on American Airlines or a combination of American Airlines and US Airways.
  • American Airlines awards cannot be combined with any of our current partner.
  • American Airlines award travel chart (PDF)

Please see the devoted thread on using US miles to book AA here.
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Old Dec 23, 2013, 10:56 pm
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Originally Posted by wheresmybagba
No and no.
You broke my heart
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Old Dec 23, 2013, 10:57 pm
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Originally Posted by cedricgerald
You broke my heart
Console yourself with some Dom and a massage. It's not like sitting in a 10F 747 for a ~2 hour flight is a violation of the Geneva Conventions (and you may well get the 9F new 747).
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 3:02 am
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
Console yourself with some Dom and a massage. It's not like sitting in a 10F 747 for a ~2 hour flight is a violation of the Geneva Conventions (and you may well get the 9F new 747).
I flew it recently and although it was the old F .. for such a short flight it was more than comfortable ^ Enjoy!
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 3:03 am
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Originally Posted by savekenny
It isn't a gamble but rather, you come out ahead if loss incurred < premium paid over the long haul, not just one trip. I can well get him home on a one way award ticket that costs very little. But it's good that you're gladly covering the costs for others who claim more than they pay--this is how insurance works.

So that this is not going off topic, I'm surprised US doesn't offer to sell travel
insurance when you ticket an award. It's am easy commission for them.
Hmm, and when you are in a car accident in a foreign country and need a medical evacuation back home with doctor escort costing $100,000+. I am sure you can just buy a one way award ticket then. As was said, and I guess you have agreed, you either cop the cost of insurance or you have no right to complain when things go wrong. Note, in Australia at least, travel insurance also covers public liability up to 10 million generally for anything you may do, medical costs, etc. plus all the flight side of things. It is a very cheap price to pay.
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 6:00 am
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
Console yourself with some Dom and a massage. It's not like sitting in a 10F 747 for a ~2 hour flight is a violation of the Geneva Conventions (and you may well get the 9F new 747).
Originally Posted by flashware
I flew it recently and although it was the old F .. for such a short flight it was more than comfortable ^ Enjoy!
so don only, there is no Krug
You may be surprised but I found the old F on the 747 more confortable than the F suite on the 777.
Never experienced the new F on the 747 but will try the A380 F from CDG.

More seriously, I'm surprised that some people book some awards for April and later

My trip is in March and I was thinking of canceling and rebooking with CX using AA miles
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by cedricgerald
so don only, there is no Krug
You may be surprised but I found the old F on the 747 more confortable than the F suite on the 777.
Never experienced the new F on the 747 but will try the A380 F from CDG.

More seriously, I'm surprised that some people book some awards for April and later

My trip is in March and I was thinking of canceling and rebooking with CX using AA miles
No Krug on TG as far as I know.. only SQ!
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 6:27 am
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Originally Posted by cedricgerald
More seriously, I'm surprised that some people book some awards for April and later

My trip is in March and I was thinking of canceling and rebooking with CX using AA miles
Unless i missed it there has been no information given that one can book OW awards immediately after US joins OW (31. march), nevermind before that date? There would be also the question about rates, europe - asia is noticeable more expensive on AA OW than US *A (100/110k vs. 140/140k in first to northeast/southeast asia).
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 7:18 am
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Originally Posted by freakazoid
Unless i missed it there has been no information given that one can book OW awards immediately after US joins OW (31. march), nevermind before that date? There would be also the question about rates, europe - asia is noticeable more expensive on AA OW than US *A (100/110k vs. 140/140k in first to northeast/southeast asia).
Originally Posted by flashware
No Krug on TG as far as I know.. only SQ!
I'll then accept the Don under these conditions as a one time favor that I'll extend to Thai
IIRC ANA also offers Krug. (or used to offer Krug)
SQ offer both ?
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 7:29 am
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hello,
does anyone have any insight why award availability in C on SQ going ADL - SIN or vice versa is zero in April and October?

it used to be wide open almost every day of the year and I booked it for several years no matter what the dates. now it seems you can only book 2 weeks in advance.

is this temporary or final like on LH?
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by freakazoid
Unless i missed it there has been no information given that one can book OW awards immediately after US joins OW (31. march), nevermind before that date? There would be also the question about rates, europe - asia is noticeable more expensive on AA OW than US *A (100/110k vs. 140/140k in first to northeast/southeast asia).
You're correct, you can book a US *A award for traveling anytime in 2014
You're also correct, AA award is more expensive in number of miles (and the US airways miles are cheaper if you buy them at 50% off so it make AA even more expensive). Is there a lot of people who buy a large quantity of USDM at regular rate ?

However there is psycologic effect (at least for me) of flying on an airline who will leave *A few weeks after in case of IRROPS (plus non revenue + plus no status in *A so I guess that I won't be the first to be rebooked and wonder if the'll keep me in J / F

Once US will be out of *A, the rebooking process in case of IRROPS will be.... "interesting" ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but if one has already checked in (OLCI or at the airport) it's up to the operating carrier to rebook the PAX ,?
I don't believe *A carriers will make a lot of efforts for their former *A partner, especially for an award ticket where they're not paid much. Again do correct me if I'm wrong

By the way, when US "pays / compensate" the *A carrier ? At the time of booking or once flown.
Assume the rule is the same with OW ,?
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by cedricgerald
so don only, there is no Krug
You may be surprised but I found the old F on the 747 more confortable than the F suite on the 777.
Never experienced the new F on the 747 but will try the A380 F from CDG.
Hmm. I really thought I was the only one. I love the old F on the TG 744. It has a certain open-space old world feel to it - not that I ever flew PanAm or TWA, but this is kind of what I imagine it must have been - open space with lots of personal space, a congregation area for people to chat, etc. Our tendency towards enclosed suites with touch screens to place drink orders so that you don't have to talk to the stewardesses (looking at you, NH) is sometimes a bit ... disconcerting.
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by nz09
hello,
does anyone have any insight why award availability in C on SQ going ADL - SIN or vice versa is zero in April and October?

it used to be wide open almost every day of the year and I booked it for several years no matter what the dates. now it seems you can only book 2 weeks in advance.

is this temporary or final like on LH?
Usually you can't book J / F on SQ Long haul using USDM.
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 8:04 am
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
Hmm. I really thought I was the only one. I love the old F on the TG 744. It has a certain open-space old world feel to it - not that I ever flew PanAm or TWA, but this is kind of what I imagine it must have been - open space with lots of personal space, a congregation area for people to chat, etc. Our tendency towards enclosed suites with touch screens to place drink orders so that you don't have to talk to the stewardesses (looking at you, NH) is sometimes a bit ... disconcerting.

On a Thai 744, we were only two sharing the F cabin.
It was a very nice and open feeling to look at the blue sky via all these windows.
Why we now all want to have a closed 25 sqft suite with a lot of privacy when at the same time we're not allowed to be part of the mile high club
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 8:27 am
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Originally Posted by cedricgerald
Once US will be out of *A, the rebooking process in case of IRROPS will be.... "interesting" ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but if one has already checked in (OLCI or at the airport) it's up to the operating carrier to rebook the PAX ,?
I don't believe *A carriers will make a lot of efforts for their former *A partner, especially for an award ticket where they're not paid much. Again do correct me if I'm wrong
I just booked a pacific trip from Boston to about four locations for next May with my USDM. I had options on Asiana, Eva, etc... but I actually purposefully chose United flights. Somewhere in the back of my mind, I sort of felt more comfortable being on US Airways "closest" partner rather than an Asian carrier for exactly these reasons. Of course, that has never been said and there is no reason to expect United to accommodate me any better than another A* partner in May 2014, but for some reason it just makes a little sense to me.... I think.
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by cedricgerald
Once US will be out of *A, the rebooking process in case of IRROPS will be.... "interesting" ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but if one has already checked in (OLCI or at the airport) it's up to the operating carrier to rebook the PAX ,?
I don't believe *A carriers will make a lot of efforts for their former *A partner, especially for an award ticket where they're not paid much. Again do correct me if I'm wrong
I would think IRROPS are probably less an issue than schedule changes. With IRROPS it's clearly the responsibility of the airline you're using, and former partner or not, you have a valid ticket that needs to be treated as such.

Schedule changes on the other hand are something US normally would have to sort out. If this http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/bmi-d...ay-2012-a.html BMI thread is any indication, after 30. March US won't see any inventory and can only confirm schedule changes. Small changes (flight time moved a bit) probably will be corrected automatically, but bigger changes (flight no longer offered) could mean human intervention is needed. As US can't do anything you need to have luck that the former *A partner is willing to work with you and change the ticket, so US can confirm it. Otherwise you'd be forced to cancel the trip and get it refunded.
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