"Please use the lavs in your cabin, unless you're in C"
Dec 8, 2008, 5:46 pm
#46
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I had my leg up on the armrest. I was in 17C on a 777. Not exactly difficult.
Look, my gripe is, if they're going to make the announcement, then enforce it. If they're not going to enforce it, don't make it (or change it to reflect the policy). All that does is make ALL rules "negotiable"/challengeable. Why should I obey rules that don't get enforced consistently? Why should I respect a FA who won't enforce his/her own rules?
I had my leg up on the armrest. I was in 17C on a 777. Not exactly difficult.
Look, my gripe is, if they're going to make the announcement, then enforce it. If they're not going to enforce it, don't make it (or change it to reflect the policy). All that does is make ALL rules "negotiable"/challengeable. Why should I obey rules that don't get enforced consistently? Why should I respect a FA who won't enforce his/her own rules?
It's JUST a bathroom. Good grief.
Dec 8, 2008, 5:47 pm
#47
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I usually don't use airplane bathroom anyway. I once used a black light in there and saw many things I wish I didn't see.
Next time, I will bring DNA kits and do a lab test on the plane. Who wanna join me??
Next time, I will bring DNA kits and do a lab test on the plane. Who wanna join me??
Dec 8, 2008, 5:48 pm
#48
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I had my leg up on the armrest. I was in 17C on a 777. Not exactly difficult.
Look, my gripe is, if they're going to make the announcement, then enforce it. If they're not going to enforce it, don't make it (or change it to reflect the policy). All that does is make ALL rules "negotiable"/challengeable. Why should I obey rules that don't get enforced consistently? Why should I respect a FA who won't enforce his/her own rules?
I had my leg up on the armrest. I was in 17C on a 777. Not exactly difficult.
Look, my gripe is, if they're going to make the announcement, then enforce it. If they're not going to enforce it, don't make it (or change it to reflect the policy). All that does is make ALL rules "negotiable"/challengeable. Why should I obey rules that don't get enforced consistently? Why should I respect a FA who won't enforce his/her own rules?
Dec 8, 2008, 5:49 pm
#49
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I had someone do this to me once, slightly different circumstance. I was in the Y Lav and seated in Y, but I was on a 767 and the seated in front of the Lav's so it must have been a 2 cabin, anyway I came out of the bathroom and I guess the FA's had asked people not to move towards the front as carts were coming through (not over the PA), anyway as I was in the LAV I was unaware of this - another passanger ubrupty, rudely and physically blocked my way (it could have very easily been seen as agressive) - I didn't react, but the Purser FA came up to me a few minutes later and said that I should feel free to use the F Lav's if I needed to. I think it was his way of thanking me for not "freaking out" at the other passenger - who was a complete jacka**!
Dec 8, 2008, 5:59 pm
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How about installing locks on the lav doors which require a token kinda like you see in fast food joints in shady neighborhoods? The lavs in each cabin would require a different token, thereby restricting customers to their own cabins. United could even charge for extra tokens... Hmmm....
On a 757 in F I will almost always use the lav between F and E+ (it's easier to get to in most cases, and most if not all of the time the FA's mention that in F they can use the mid or front and in Y mid or back.
Dec 8, 2008, 6:34 pm
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If you'd care to respond to the rest of my post, please do so.
Dec 8, 2008, 6:44 pm
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OMG ... Ewwww! This is where ignorance is bliss (when coupled with disposable gloves, seat protectors, and lots of paper towels...)!
Dec 8, 2008, 6:51 pm
#53
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I too do laps on transpacs. Need to stretch the legs out. I don't mke any issue just kinda cruise back, stretch my back and arms a little in the galley, and then come back up the other aisle.
No FA has ever ?'d or stopped me, and no passenger has ever *successfully* kneed me in the mid thigh area. Although, maybe I just move to deftly and smoothly down the aisle
No FA has ever ?'d or stopped me, and no passenger has ever *successfully* kneed me in the mid thigh area. Although, maybe I just move to deftly and smoothly down the aisle
Dec 8, 2008, 9:03 pm
#54
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You're right! The announcements were just for the fun of it! I should know better as a 1K. It's like cell phones in flight - c'mon, if you're in C or F, well, we all know the announcement is just breathing practice. Go ahead, get your e-mail.
If you'd care to respond to the rest of my post, please do so.
If you'd care to respond to the rest of my post, please do so.
I bet we all stick to the 55mph limit right?
Dec 8, 2008, 9:14 pm
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LOL, okay, time to be serious. Regarding using restroom in your own cabin. I was on a red eye flight not too long ago. The female FA was talking it up with a male passenger who sat in Y. They walked up to her galley and talked the night away. I was in the 1st row in E+. I decided to walk up and use the restroom in F instead of walking all the way back to Y. The FA told me to go back and use the restroom in Y for security reason. Then I told her " So it's okay for you to bring a passenger from Coach up here to chit chat? " Her mouth dropped as I walked away.
Usually I would follow the rules, but that time, I didn't think I needed to.
Usually I would follow the rules, but that time, I didn't think I needed to.
Dec 9, 2008, 6:50 am
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I had my leg up on the armrest. I was in 17C on a 777. Not exactly difficult.
Look, my gripe is, if they're going to make the announcement, then enforce it. If they're not going to enforce it, don't make it (or change it to reflect the policy). All that does is make ALL rules "negotiable"/challengeable. Why should I obey rules that don't get enforced consistently? Why should I respect a FA who won't enforce his/her own rules?
I had my leg up on the armrest. I was in 17C on a 777. Not exactly difficult.
Look, my gripe is, if they're going to make the announcement, then enforce it. If they're not going to enforce it, don't make it (or change it to reflect the policy). All that does is make ALL rules "negotiable"/challengeable. Why should I obey rules that don't get enforced consistently? Why should I respect a FA who won't enforce his/her own rules?
Totally off topic, but I think I might have a new vanity plate idea for my car: INFIPINF
Dec 9, 2008, 7:45 am
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I had my leg up on the armrest. I was in 17C on a 777. Not exactly difficult.
Look, my gripe is, if they're going to make the announcement, then enforce it. If they're not going to enforce it, don't make it (or change it to reflect the policy). All that does is make ALL rules "negotiable"/challengeable. Why should I obey rules that don't get enforced consistently? Why should I respect a FA who won't enforce his/her own rules?
I had my leg up on the armrest. I was in 17C on a 777. Not exactly difficult.
Look, my gripe is, if they're going to make the announcement, then enforce it. If they're not going to enforce it, don't make it (or change it to reflect the policy). All that does is make ALL rules "negotiable"/challengeable. Why should I obey rules that don't get enforced consistently? Why should I respect a FA who won't enforce his/her own rules?
Dec 9, 2008, 8:33 am
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Putting your leg out could be construed as assault and get you sued, banned, or injured. What is wrong with verbally calling the guy out?
If you had done that to me, I would have lodged a complaint.
I understand you wanting to see that the rules were enforced, but physically blocking someone...well, hmmm....
If you had done that to me, I would have lodged a complaint.
I understand you wanting to see that the rules were enforced, but physically blocking someone...well, hmmm....
Dec 9, 2008, 8:50 am
#59
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As long as the "offender" and the OP both stay the hell out of F, it's fine by me!
Actually, I don't think everyone is as well versed in the lavatory rules (or any of the rules) as us. He might have missed the announcement, and doesn't spend his time acquainting himself with all the nuances of cabin etiquette.
Actually, I don't think everyone is as well versed in the lavatory rules (or any of the rules) as us. He might have missed the announcement, and doesn't spend his time acquainting himself with all the nuances of cabin etiquette.
Dec 9, 2008, 9:04 am
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LOL, okay, time to be serious. Regarding using restroom in your own cabin. I was on a red eye flight not too long ago. The female FA was talking it up with a male passenger who sat in Y. They walked up to her galley and talked the night away. I was in the 1st row in E+. I decided to walk up and use the restroom in F instead of walking all the way back to Y. The FA told me to go back and use the restroom in Y for security reason. Then I told her " So it's okay for you to bring a passenger from Coach up here to chit chat? " Her mouth dropped as I walked away.
Usually I would follow the rules, but that time, I didn't think I needed to.
Usually I would follow the rules, but that time, I didn't think I needed to.