That's not the problem.
JSlo is 1K and for now he get higher priority than any CO elite on UA metal.

Or the questions were phrased like 'would you prefer we took your left arm or your first born.' Well obviously I wouldn't want my child harmed, so take my arm.

Good luck with that.

But there is nil scientific value in that site.

For the purpose of that quote (from you), it is top tier.

This is what I quoted from you:

There is no difference in instruments earned with or without GS for this purpose, for those earning 100k - 149k, which is what you were referring to, correct?

If not, I have no idea what you meant in the last part of that sentence. It doesn't make sense.

And BTW, I will never forget meeting you in ORD that day a few years ago. (fastair looked after me and then ran off before I could say thank you.)

I ended up writing an email and sending to 1kvoice about the CR1s and I also mentioned the segment qualifications, even though I've never qualified on segments. I listed all the things I like and the things that have kept me loyal to UA through the last decade.

-David

Good ?'s. Answers:

1. That is not why it is tougher. It is tougher b/c UA is selling F seats at OLCI or time of booking for low low prices. I don't begrudge them this, it is just good business. But it is tougher and tougher to clear at all, let alone in advance using an instrument.

2. I should change my signature. I am 1.5K right now. Last year was 2K. Won't cross 2K this year. But yes, if I cross 1.5K again I will make out OK. But I am flying alot of additional miles to keep pace with the program devaluations!

The bigger issue is the clear steps being take to devalue the program.

I couldn't find anything in the search and I'm not going to try and read thru the entire thread, but I didn't see this discussed.

Anyone know if we still will get 2 additional SWU's at 150K and 200K?

I agree...classic post!

These devaluations are a shame, and in the case of my travel only hurt UA.

I am disappointed, because the CR1s are are very handy for upgrading family. But, I have limited use for SWUs since I mostly fly on Z fares, so I guess SWUs are the new CR1s.

The loss here is much more for UA than me, with regard to my flying. I can now move all of my overseas travel to SQ since I no longer have incentive to get BIS with United. I travel 4 or 5 times a year to Asia in business, and that is $25k SQ is about to pick up. Then, I will use my SWUs and few CR1s for transcons.

Thanks, United, for making my ourchasing decisions easier.

Yes indeed.

And I stated that, but I went a step further, where I said "as long as he books prior to the window." If he books after the 100 hour window, then it is possible that if he falls to the day of DM list processing, that more of them have been cleared in advance leaving less for them at the gate.

I see this often..1P has confirmed (via UDU) NF seat, and 1K who either a) booked very close in, or b) was rebooked for irrops (or a change of his plans) sits on the DM list, not to be cleared as F had been booked up in advance.

Status doesn't always win, the system rewards those that book longer out, even though, I would not be going to far out on a limb by stating that the closer in you book, the higher the fare, and IMHO, should be rewarded more. I HATE seeing F full of NF prior to the DM window...sure you can't plan on the UG, but it allows the last min, high yield, highest status person to get the UD over a cheaper, advanced purchase, lower statused passenger, or even the guy willing to buy the F seat at F prices.

Full details here.

But easier because you now have the UA flyer in the pool who flies on CO sometimes.

Honestly, I'm amazed that we keep seeing this argument. Everything else being equal if you increase the FF pool by adding CO flyers and increase the seat pool by adding CO flights, on a systemwide basis there will be no impact on UG probability.

Thanks... I'm on travel, can't VPN to work e-mail, too peeved to look at United.bomb.... whine whine whine all the way.... to St. Louis

Not true...yet. I would agree with you once the fleets are merged, but until that point, there is a difference. CO people flew on UA before, as UA flew on them. The UA flights used to leave the CO elites in Y (unless they bought F), but now the CO elites that traveled on UA a bit now compete where before they were passively in Y.

And even when fleets are merged, individual markets may become more elite heavy with a less than proportional increase in F. Of course other markets may have a bigger increase in F than the elite pool increase. So yes, on a system basis, if all things remain the same, the overall numbers won't change assuming everything grows/shrinks in a 1:1 ratio of flyers to F seats. I can guarantee that that won't happen, and there will be some markets with a surplus in supply of F seats, and some with a surplus in demand for upgraded F. I'd be interested in knowing what the UA-CO hub routes will be like, what equipment will be used, and the frequency say, Jul of 2012.

But then again, UG availability could skyrocket as the pied pipers of DFW and ATL, Arpey and Anderson, if the rumors I see here are true, are playing their pipe and attracting all the top elites away, so 1p, 2P, and even the lowly NRSA such as myself should be able to sit in F just about anytime.

I know I will never get an answer, but if the rational could be articulated for certain changes it would help calm people down.

I am waiting to see what the benefits of both programs combining will be in 2011 for a mixed fare purchasing run of the mill 100,000 mile a year flier.
Unfortunately, not off to a great start today, but its not the end of the race.

How come no one in the greater than 75k less than 100k EQM group has posted saying how happy they are that they now get a new benefit (2 CR1s) that they didn't have before?

That's why I said "systemwide" and "everything else being equal". If people want to talk about specific routes or markets, that's one thing, but the blanket assertions about upgrades becoming harder are just stupid.