United flight makes emergency landing at Newark Airport after landing gear trouble
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AP reports that UA spokesperson indicated the wing may have touched the ground. Looks like an extra 1/2 hour circling.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...212Z/KORD/KEWR
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...212Z/KORD/KEWR
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Perhaps the positive press for UNITED, as a result of having had a well trained and experienced team on the flight deck during this situation, will persuade UAL management to reconsider the increased use of contractors on the EWR-ORD and ORD-EWR routing.
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they might and that's what the faa would have us believe but they are foolish for doing so. crew experience and quality can vary widely between airlines.
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With all the negative press about airlines over the past decade, I've always heard that UA has some of the best trained crew in the industry.
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Glad I was flying AA for my ORD->EWR this morning. Our plane sat at the gate at ORD for a good 30 minutes while ATC sorted out the mess and cleared us to take off.
I got a good glimpse of the plane, emergency vehicles, and crew that were assessing the situation when I landed at noon in EWR. Didn't get a chance to see if there was any damage done to the runway, but the FAA is reporting that there is still a delay due to disabled aircraft and I am guessing that the plane is either still sitting there, or there is enough damage done to the runway that they can't reopen it.
I got a good glimpse of the plane, emergency vehicles, and crew that were assessing the situation when I landed at noon in EWR. Didn't get a chance to see if there was any damage done to the runway, but the FAA is reporting that there is still a delay due to disabled aircraft and I am guessing that the plane is either still sitting there, or there is enough damage done to the runway that they can't reopen it.
Due to RWY-TAXI / DISABLED AIRCRAFT, there is a Traffic Management Program in effect for traffic arriving Newark International Airport, Newark, NJ (EWR). This is causing some arriving flights to be delayed an average of 1 hour and 20 minutes. To see if you may be affected, select your departure airport and check "Delays by Destination".
#21
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Details
The plane was an Airbus 319 operated by United Airlines (Flight 634)
Here is a better article
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/11/nyregion/11plane.html
Here is a better article
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/11/nyregion/11plane.html
#22
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It seems to me that unless there was a risk of fire, they could have evacuated via a portable staircase, just like the air berlin over-shoot:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/trav...0104-lnny.html
Though I am no expert, I understand that people can be injured on those slides, breaking ankles, etc. Certainly, if there were elderly people on that flight, I could see how having them slide down those evacuation slides could seriously hurt them. Was this just a knee-jerk reaction to the landing, or do you think they really needed the slides to get out quickly? Any thoughts?
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/trav...0104-lnny.html
Though I am no expert, I understand that people can be injured on those slides, breaking ankles, etc. Certainly, if there were elderly people on that flight, I could see how having them slide down those evacuation slides could seriously hurt them. Was this just a knee-jerk reaction to the landing, or do you think they really needed the slides to get out quickly? Any thoughts?
The reason I started to fly UA in the first place was because of Capt. Al Haynes and his crew, a lot of people have forgotten about the miracle in Sioux City in 1989.
With all the negative press about airlines over the past decade, I've always heard that UA has some of the best trained crew in the industry.
With all the negative press about airlines over the past decade, I've always heard that UA has some of the best trained crew in the industry.
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What does one have to do with the other?! Maybe this will change SEA-LAX back to mainline too
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(Fairly) complete details on UA 634 Sun. 10 Jan 2010
Following information assembled from multiple public sources:
Day/Date: Sunday, 10 Jan 2010
Flight number: UA 634 ORD-EWR
Aircraft: A319, "tail number" N816UA, in service approx. 11 years
Sched. arrival: 0859
Actual arrival: 0945
Right main gear would not extend fully. Crew circled, presumably to burn off fuel, landed on Runway 4L on left main gear. Pax interviewed on WCBS-TV local news reported calm atmosphere on board, brace instructions given, aircraft slowly tilted to resting position on starboard engine after speed very low or possibly stopped. No reports given of sparking. Pax evacuated on slides and brought to terminal. EWR flight ops suspended for approx. 2 hours, then resumed on two remaining runways besides 4L/22R, where aircraft remained. Flight Safety International reports extensive damage to aircraft, but this was not evident on local TV news video (but that doesn't mean it isn't true).
Comment: I know flight crews train for all manner of gear-up, and partial gear-up landings, but this configuration can't possibly be easy to execute, from my non-pilot perspective. "Capt. Sully"-category job, far as I'm concerned. My level of confidence in United's mainline pilots is only enhanced, if that's possible.
Day/Date: Sunday, 10 Jan 2010
Flight number: UA 634 ORD-EWR
Aircraft: A319, "tail number" N816UA, in service approx. 11 years
Sched. arrival: 0859
Actual arrival: 0945
Right main gear would not extend fully. Crew circled, presumably to burn off fuel, landed on Runway 4L on left main gear. Pax interviewed on WCBS-TV local news reported calm atmosphere on board, brace instructions given, aircraft slowly tilted to resting position on starboard engine after speed very low or possibly stopped. No reports given of sparking. Pax evacuated on slides and brought to terminal. EWR flight ops suspended for approx. 2 hours, then resumed on two remaining runways besides 4L/22R, where aircraft remained. Flight Safety International reports extensive damage to aircraft, but this was not evident on local TV news video (but that doesn't mean it isn't true).
Comment: I know flight crews train for all manner of gear-up, and partial gear-up landings, but this configuration can't possibly be easy to execute, from my non-pilot perspective. "Capt. Sully"-category job, far as I'm concerned. My level of confidence in United's mainline pilots is only enhanced, if that's possible.
Last edited by RichG; Jan 10, 2010 at 5:51 pm Reason: changed reference to dumping fuel
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Curious to know how long planes are typically out of service after an event like this. Hope it's repairable!
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Following information assembled from multiple public sources:
Day/Date: Sunday, 10 Jan 2010
Flight number: UA 634 ORD-EWR
Aircraft: A319, "tail number" N816UA, in service approx. 11 years
Sched. arrival: 0859
Actual arrival: 0945
Right main gear would not extend fully. Crew dumped fuel, landed on Runway 4L on left main gear. Pax interviewed on WCBS-TV local news reported calm atmosphere on board, brace instructions given, aircraft slowly tilted to resting position on starboard engine after speed very low or possibly stopped. No reports given of sparking. Pax evacuated on slides and brought to terminal. EWR flight ops suspended for approx. 2 hours, then resumed on two remaining runways besides 4L/22R, where aircraft remained. Flight Safety International reports extensive damage to aircraft, but this was not evident on local TV news video (but that doesn't mean it isn't true).
Comment: I know flight crews train for all manner of gear-up, and partial gear-up landings, but this configuration can't possibly be easy to execute, from my non-pilot perspective. "Capt. Sully"-category job, far as I'm concerned. My level of confidence in United's mainline pilots is only enhanced, if that's possible.
Day/Date: Sunday, 10 Jan 2010
Flight number: UA 634 ORD-EWR
Aircraft: A319, "tail number" N816UA, in service approx. 11 years
Sched. arrival: 0859
Actual arrival: 0945
Right main gear would not extend fully. Crew dumped fuel, landed on Runway 4L on left main gear. Pax interviewed on WCBS-TV local news reported calm atmosphere on board, brace instructions given, aircraft slowly tilted to resting position on starboard engine after speed very low or possibly stopped. No reports given of sparking. Pax evacuated on slides and brought to terminal. EWR flight ops suspended for approx. 2 hours, then resumed on two remaining runways besides 4L/22R, where aircraft remained. Flight Safety International reports extensive damage to aircraft, but this was not evident on local TV news video (but that doesn't mean it isn't true).
Comment: I know flight crews train for all manner of gear-up, and partial gear-up landings, but this configuration can't possibly be easy to execute, from my non-pilot perspective. "Capt. Sully"-category job, far as I'm concerned. My level of confidence in United's mainline pilots is only enhanced, if that's possible.
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Last edited by aluminumdriver; Jan 10, 2010 at 6:17 pm
#28
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fascinating picture:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unite...131/1638252/M/
Looks like the door jammed thus the wheels wouldnt deploy.
Congrats to the pilots for a landing with no injuries.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unite...131/1638252/M/
Looks like the door jammed thus the wheels wouldnt deploy.
Congrats to the pilots for a landing with no injuries.
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Seems to me the first order of business has got to be to jack up the right side of the aircraft and get air bags or a big dolly under there to relieve the stress on the wing spar. True, there's a lot of upward stress under the wing due to the airflow during flight, but I doubt it's too good to leave the aircraft sitting on the engine for too long if you intend to use it again. Wouldn't surprise me if the engine, or at least the cowling, get swapped out on general principles for that matter.
Thank you for the comment regarding fuel dumping. Now I can't find the reference to it I saw earlier. It might have been corrected, or it may have been someone's assumption mentioned during an interview. I'll correct the post above.
Thank you for the comment regarding fuel dumping. Now I can't find the reference to it I saw earlier. It might have been corrected, or it may have been someone's assumption mentioned during an interview. I'll correct the post above.
Last edited by iluv2fly; Jan 10, 2010 at 11:36 pm Reason: merge
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Glad to hear the emergency landing went smoothly. I never worry about the competence of the United mainline pilots. The major legacy carriers have very good safety records, especially the mainline pilots and routes. However, AA is getting reviewed by the FAA due to having an unusual amount of pilot error incidents.