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Old Sep 10, 2025 | 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by Kmxu
Does a round-trip search for either EWR-CTA or EWR-PMO make any difference in fare? This means that you may connect some European cities other than Rome.
Whether you book EWR-CTA roundtrip, or EWR-PMO roundtrip, or EWR-CTA + PMO-EWR open-jaw, they all qualify for roundtrip fares as long as you meet min stay requirments (7 days for cheapest R fares) and the same fares apply no matter if you route through FCO, MUC, FRA, or other options. The different pricing basically comes down to fare class availability and day of week of travel (mid-week travel fares are slightly less than weekend travel fares) on flights as long as you meet the min stay requirements. That would be P, A, and O for UA marketed PE fares and N, E, and G for LH marketed PE fares.

While fare filings on EWR-CTA and EWR-PMO are not identical, the pricing is pretty close to each other. One minor difference is cheapest PE fares on EWR-CTA require a 90 day advance purchase, while the cheapest ones on EWR-PMO only require a 50 day advance purchase. While fare filings are asymmetric between US and EU based on origin, when booking roundtrip/open-jaw with US origin, both outbound and return fares are priced using US origin fares.

Midweek travel fares have an 'X' in the 3rd position of fare basis code, while weekend travel fares have a 'W' there (shown below). Weekend travel fares are $110 more on an each-way basis (you can mix mid-week and weekend travel fares together).




Cheapest EWR-CTA PE fares mid-week travel (qualifications below). As you can see, the expression "mid-week" is used somewhat loosely here.




Cheapest EWR-PMO fares mid-week travel
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Old Sep 10, 2025 | 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by FrankNatoli
It is with multi-city that I get the astronomical airfares. There are many ways of connecting, Fiumicino, Munich, Frankfurt, Brussels, Zurich, but the "reasonable" flight times get the crazy numbers, i.e., $5,000 per person PP roundtrip.
Of course, it makes a huge amount of sense that the desirable itineraries cost the most...
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Old Sep 10, 2025 | 10:44 am
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For what OP is willing to pay for PP, there are round trip business class options to Rome (if theres flexibility on dates), with connections on to the desired cities via 6k rewards. Obviously theres benefit to keeping all in a single ticket but worth a look. Personally Id hate spending that much cash knowing I could have sat up front.


edited to add: Mxp offers nonstop UA options for $2,500, but the reward situation is trickier.
disregard, I didnt have filter set for UA
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Old Sep 10, 2025 | 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by FrankNatoli
Wife and I would like to fly Newark to Sicily next April, connecting to Catania inbound, connecting from Palermo outbound. Premium Plus and Business fares are astronomical. PP is $5,000 per person round trip. Looked at seating, virtually no one on any of planes at this time.
1. Seat maps aren't loads.

2. United has a few decades of historical sales data to reference for pricing, and is pretty familiar that not many tickets are sold 7 months in advance.
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Old Sep 10, 2025 | 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Wx4caster
For what OP is willing to pay for PP, there are round trip business class options to Rome (if theres flexibility on dates), with connections on to the desired cities via 6k rewards. Obviously theres benefit to keeping all in a single ticket but worth a look. Personally Id hate spending that much cash knowing I could have sat up front.


edited to add: Mxp offers nonstop UA options for $2,500, but the reward situation is trickier.
disregard, I didnt have filter set for UA
Can I ask what 6k rewards refers to?
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Old Sep 10, 2025 | 6:23 pm
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Can I ask what 6k rewards refers to?
shorter intra-EU flights only cost 6k miles. Non-stops only.
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