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Old Oct 12, 2022, 11:09 am
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United Continues Transatlantic Leadership with Debut of 2023 Summer SchedulePhotos(1)

United to fly to more destinations across the Atlantic than all other U.S. carriers combined; adds new service to three cities - Malaga, Spain; Stockholm, Sweden; and Dubai, UAE – along with six more flights to popular European destinations

CHICAGO, Oct. 12, 2022 /PRNewswire/ -- United Airlines today continued its transatlantic leadership among U.S. carriers with the debut of the airline's 2023 summer schedule that includes adding new service to three cities – Malaga, Spain; Stockholm, Sweden; and Dubai, UAE – as well as six more flights to some of the most popular destinations in Europe, including Rome, Paris, Barcelona, London, Berlin, and Shannon. In total, United will fly to 37 cities in Europe, Africa, India and the Middle East next summer, more destinations than all other U.S. airlines combined.

United saw historic levels of demand for travel to Europe in the summer peak, up 20% compared to 2019, and is focused on developing its network to serve continued demand strength.

"Next summer United is offering the best of both worlds: we're making it easier for our customers to visit the most popular cities in Europe, but we're also expanding our reach to give travelers access to new places they haven't yet experienced," said Patrick Quayle, senior vice president of global network planning and alliances at United. "We expect another busy summer for international travel and are proud to build on our industry-leading global network to offer our customers the widest range of destinations and most convenient travel options."

Along with adding new flights, United will fly nine routes it added last summer, including direct flights between New York/Newark and Nice; Denver and Munich; Boston and London Heathrow; Chicago/O'Hare and Zurich; and Chicago/O'Hare and Milan, as well as flights to four destinations not served by any other North American airline, including Amman, Jordan; Azores, Portugal; Palma de Mallorca, Spain and Tenerife, Spain.

Tickets for United's new summer 2023 flights are on sale now at United.com and include:

New York/Newark – Malaga, Spain*

United is adding a fifth Spanish destination to its global network with new direct flights between New York/Newark and Malaga. Starting May 31, travelers will be able to explore Spain's Mediterranean coast with three flights per week to Malaga on a Boeing 757-200. United flies to more destinations in Spain than any other U.S. airline and next summer will offer direct flights to three Spanish cities that no other U.S. airline serves: Malaga, Tenerife and Palma de Mallorca.

New York/Newark – Dubai, UAE*

As part of its historic commercial agreement with Emirates, United will launch direct, daily flights between New York/Newark and Dubai on a Boeing 777-200ER starting March 25. From there, customers can travel on Emirates or its sister airline flydubai to more than 100 different cities, giving customers more options to connect over the Middle East than ever before. United will be the only U.S. airline to offer non-stop flights to Dubai from the U.S. and flies to more destinations in the Middle East and India than any other U.S. airline.

New York/Newark – Stockholm, Sweden*

On May 27, United will return to Stockholm for the first time since 2019 with service from New/York Newark. United first began serving Stockholm, which locals proudly refer to as the "beauty on water", in 2005. United will reconnect customers to this culturally rich and dynamic capital city with daily flights on a Boeing 757-200.

San Francisco – Rome, Italy*

United broadens its industry-leading European network from San Francisco with daily flights to Rome launching on May 25 on a Boeing 777-200ER. United is the only U.S. airline to offer direct flights to Europe from its hub in San Francisco, and next summer will offer non-stop flights to seven popular European cities. With flights to Rome, Milan, Venice and Naples, United continues to fly to more cities in Italy from the U.S. than any other airline in the world.

Chicago/O'Hare – Shannon, Ireland*

Beginning May 25, United will add more seasonal flights to Shannon, Ireland with new daily flights from Chicago O'Hare – giving customers more options to explore some of the country's most scenic destinations including Limerick and Galway. United is the only U.S. carrier to offer direct flights to Shannon with its existing seasonal service from New York/Newark, and also offers direct flights to Dublin from Chicago, New York/Newark and Washington Dulles. United will fly a Boeing 757-200 on this route.

Washington Dulles – Berlin, Germany*

United will begin capital-to-capital service between Washington, D.C. and Berlin, Germany on May 25. United will be the only carrier to offer non-stop flights between these cities with daily flights on a Boeing 767-400ER. United offers more flights to Berlin from the U.S. than any other airline, with existing year-round flights from Newark.

Chicago/O'Hare – Barcelona, Spain*

United continues to expand its best-in-class European network from Chicago next summer with new direct, daily flights to Barcelona on a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner, starting May 25. Next summer, United will fly to 14 destinations in Europe from Chicago, more than any other airline. This new flight builds on United's existing service to Barcelona from New York/Newark and Washington Dulles.

More Flights to Paris and London

United will have 23 daily flights to London Heathrow next summer, adding a second daily flight between Los Angeles and London Heathrow on March 25 on a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner. United offers more flights and more business class seats from New York and the west coast to London than any other U.S. carrier and next summer, all United flights to London Heathrow will offer all-aisle access Polaris and Premium Plus seating. This new flight builds upon United's recent London expansion, with additional flights from Newark, San Francisco, and Denver, as well as new flights from Boston.

United is also adding more options for travel between Washington Dulles and Paris Charles de Gaulle with a second daily flight launching June 2, operated by a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner. United currently offers year-round flights to Paris from New York/Newark, Washington Dulles, Chicago and San Francisco.

* flights subject to government approval
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Old Oct 12, 2022, 11:01 pm
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Wish they’d consider LHR/HNL route and turn HNL into a mini Australia/NZ hub.
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Old Oct 13, 2022, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by mvogel
Wish they’d consider LHR/HNL route and turn HNL into a mini Australia/NZ hub.
You'd think the westerly route from Europe to ANZ would be more popular these days with Russian (and Middle East) airspace shutdowns and covid restrictions in Asia.
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Old Oct 13, 2022, 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by mvogel
Wish they’d consider LHR/HNL route and turn HNL into a mini Australia/NZ hub.
... UA doesn't offer any service from HNL to either of those countries. And UA already has a Pacific hub at GUM (although GUM-LHR is infeasible due to the fact that it'd fly over Russia).

HNL isn't a much better alternative for ANZ-UK flights than SFO -- it's only a couple of hundred miles shorter. And I'm not sure UA is looking to cater to UK leisure travelers with a flight that probably requires a 789. LHR-HNL is a very expensive flight to operate, because not only is it an ultra long-haul flight, you have to use a very valuable LHR slot to fly it.
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Old Oct 13, 2022, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by jsloan
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HNL isn't a much better alternative for ANZ-UK flights than SFO -- it's only a couple of hundred miles shorter. And I'm not sure UA is looking to cater to UK leisure travelers with a flight that probably requires a 789. LHR-HNL is a very expensive flight to operate, because not only is it an ultra long-haul flight, you have to use a very valuable LHR slot to fly it.
Yeah there's a reason no one offers LHR-HNL nonstop. It doesn't make economic sense.
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Old Oct 13, 2022, 11:32 am
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With all these new flights Have they quietly cancelled the PRG flights?
Up until yesterday I was looking at a nonstop from PRG-EWR in June and now it’s gone.
Looks like it. My June tickets for ORD-EWR-PRG were cancelled last night. Free rebooking is on flights "operated by United or United Express" so I'm wondering if I have any options. Haven't contacted CS yet.
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Old Oct 13, 2022, 12:12 pm
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Looks like it. My June tickets for ORD-EWR-PRG were cancelled last night. Free rebooking is on flights "operated by United or United Express" so I'm wondering if I have any options. Haven't contacted CS yet.
Yeah, UA will rebook you on UA flights to a European hub and then on *A (preferably LH group) partners from that hub onto PRG.
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Old Oct 13, 2022, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Yeah there's a reason no one offers LHR-HNL nonstop. It doesn't make economic sense.
Hawaii gets more visitors from Germany than England so the only possible business case I see would be a summer seasonal FRA-HNL which isn't much longer than LHR-HNL and you aren't dealing with LHR slots - and you get the Star feeder flights into FRA.

Even then - I doubt it pencils out even close as a viable commercial route. I could see a European LCC perhaps giving it a shot someday if they have a plane with the range.
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Old Oct 13, 2022, 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer
Hawaii gets more visitors from Germany than England so the only possible business case I see would be a summer seasonal FRA-HNL which isn't much longer than LHR-HNL and you aren't dealing with LHR slots - and you get the Star feeder flights into FRA.

Even then - I doubt it pencils out even close as a viable commercial route. I could see a European LCC perhaps giving it a shot someday if they have a plane with the range.
Condor would probably try it if they had an aircraft with the range. But they don't, and the route would be at the limit of the A330-900s they have on order. They'd have to limit passengers and/or freight.

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Old Oct 13, 2022, 3:54 pm
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Condor would probably try it if they had an aircraft with the range.
That immediately went through my head as well
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Old Oct 13, 2022, 9:17 pm
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They could do a FRA-ANC-HNL - I think they already fly to ANC ...
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Old Oct 13, 2022, 11:57 pm
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Originally Posted by cannongate
Looks like it. My June tickets for ORD-EWR-PRG were cancelled last night. Free rebooking is on flights "operated by United or United Express" so I'm wondering if I have any options. Haven't contacted CS yet.
It's boilerplate text. Since it is a TATL itinerary they will protect on Lufthansa group

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Yeah, UA will rebook you on UA flights to a European hub and then on *A (preferably LH group) partners from that hub onto PRG.
For a schedule change/market suspension such as PRG, unless they arranged a specific protection agreement with another airline for the city pair, it will only be on LH group, not any *A. Schedule changes require agreements between the airlines to accept rebooking under the existing fare (even among *A carriers) or otherwise the rebooking airline is liable for the prevailing fare. IRROPs do not require those agreements as those are handled under different settlement standards so they could potentially do any *A (or even non *A) in that situation (still JV preferred).
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Old Oct 14, 2022, 1:01 pm
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Polaris?

Hi all,

I see that the new SFO-FCO route will use the 777-200. I flew on that plane this week from EWR-SFO As I walked out of the plane from my coach seat through business class it seemed like the Polaris modules were smaller and more cramped than they were on the 787 I booked on my last trip to Europe. I am wondering if my memory is flawed from that earlier trip five years ago.

Can anyone tell me if there is a variance in the size and spacing of Polaris seats on different aircraft? I am interested in going to Rome on that new route and would be grateful for any response. Thank you.
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Old Oct 14, 2022, 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by hankschu
Hi all,

I see that the new SFO-FCO route will use the 777-200. I flew on that plane this week from EWR-SFO As I walked out of the plane from my coach seat through business class it seemed like the Polaris modules were smaller and more cramped than they were on the 787 I booked on my last trip to Europe. I am wondering if my memory is flawed from that earlier trip five years ago.

Can anyone tell me if there is a variance in the size and spacing of Polaris seats on different aircraft? I am interested in going to Rome on that new route and would be grateful for any response. Thank you.
Your EWR-SFO may have been on a 777A domestic configuration -- was it eight across with alternating rear-facing rows? You won't have that on SFO-FCO, but rather "true" Polaris.
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Old Oct 14, 2022, 1:06 pm
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Can anyone tell me if there is a variance in the size and spacing of Polaris seats on different aircraft? I am interested in going to Rome on that new route and would be grateful for any response. Thank you.
Yes, but if I remember correctly, the Polaris seats on the 787s are actually narrower than the Polaris seats on the 777s, as the 787's fuselage is thinner, which is the opposite of your recollection.
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Old Oct 14, 2022, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by hankschu
Hi all,

I see that the new SFO-FCO route will use the 777-200. I flew on that plane this week from EWR-SFO As I walked out of the plane from my coach seat through business class it seemed like the Polaris modules were smaller and more cramped than they were on the 787 I booked on my last trip to Europe. I am wondering if my memory is flawed from that earlier trip five years ago.

Can anyone tell me if there is a variance in the size and spacing of Polaris seats on different aircraft? I am interested in going to Rome on that new route and would be grateful for any response. Thank you.
The 777 J seats are about 1 inch wider than the ones on the 787 aircraft.
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