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Originally Posted by EWR764
(Post 30932340)
Is that observation directed at me? Because I don't think I've ever made any such a conclusory statement in connection with this matter.
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Originally Posted by radonc1
(Post 30932537)
...I suspect that if you asked a plane load of passengers, less than 10% of them would even know what model of plane they were on....
I sat next to a major carrier pilot on the way to HNL once and when I referenced the gauge of the aircraft in referring to it he laughed at me (already knowing that I was in no way affiliated with the aviation industry). I am sure defending non -8 MAX 737s has been the majority of the increased workload for the customer service at the major carriers that fly them. |
Originally Posted by Newman55
(Post 30932470)
I fail to see how the cabin diameter of an aircraft means anything to this discussion. If you think mechanics on the current generation of 737 is similar to what was designed in the 1960s, then I guess we should discuss the safety of current A320 family.
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Originally Posted by BF263533
(Post 30932927)
Not a safety issue, but a passenger comfort issue, more related to the original posting thread. Cabin width & seat width are factors in passenger airplane preference.
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Southwest 737 Max Makes Energency Landing in Orlando
Appears to be an engine issue. From Orlando to Victorville
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Originally Posted by BF263533
(Post 30933079)
Appears to be an engine issue. From Orlando to Victorville
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Originally Posted by radonc1
(Post 30932537)
I suspect that while you may avoid the 737 Max from now on
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Originally Posted by LarryJ
(Post 30931302)
In 1965, three newly-introduced B727-100s crashed in the US in a three-month period.
Those crashes weren't due to a flaw in the airplane. They were due to the procedures which were carried over from flying prop-driven airplanes which had instant power availability compared to the slow spool-up characteristics of a turbine engine. The proper procedure with a jet is to have the engines spooled up by 500' - 1000' before landing so that power will be available instantly if needed. Pilots transitioning from propeller-driven airplanes weren't always complying with that procedure. Modern turbine engines additionally mitigate that threat by having higher in-flight idle settings which reduce the spool-up time from flight-idle. This also makes the newer airplanes harder to slow-down and descend quickly which does lead to some go-arounds when the pilots are brought in on a tighter approach than they were expecting. https://www.tmtindustryinsider.com/2016/08/air-safety-the-deadly-boeing-727/ "The reaction was swift and dramatic. Travel agencies requested the airlines to cancel 727 bookings. Some major corporations ordered their employees to avoid 727 flights. Congressional claims erupted that the design was unsafe, and demands followed that all 727s should be grounded. In response, the Civil Aeronautics Board (the CAB, which was responsible for investigating air accidents and making safety recommendations at that time) undertook a review of the 727’s airworthiness, aerodynamics and flight characteristics. It also requested the National Aeronautics and Space Administration to review the 727 design data. And the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) convened a meeting of 727 operators to review their operating procedures and training. The result of these reviews was a conclusion that the 727 was airworthy and properly certificated. However, the CAB found that pilots were making unstabilized, high descent rate approaches more often in 727s than in any other jet transport—a practice that was facilitated by the 727’s sophisticated flap system, which allowed excessive sink rates to develop if approaches were not carefully monitored. " Similar public reaction although the govt didn't ground while it reviewed. Two of the accidents were UA planes. |
Meanwhile I just read there was a recent emergency landing of a SW Max 8 or 9 recent at MCO..... |
Originally Posted by sanfran8080
(Post 30933590)
Meanwhile I just read there was a recent emergency landing of a SW Max 8 or 9 recent at MCO..... While I have no doubt that some people will tie the two together anyway, at first blush, it looks like nothing but bad luck. An engine failure can happen on any aircraft at any time. |
Originally Posted by BF263533
(Post 30933079)
Appears to be an engine issue. From Orlando to Victorville
Originally Posted by sanfran8080
(Post 30933590)
Meanwhile I just read there was a recent emergency landing of a SW Max 8 or 9 recent at MCO..... |
Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
(Post 30933697)
WN MAX 8 on a ferry trip (no passengers), reportedly an unrelated engine issue
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Originally Posted by Dublin_rfk
(Post 30933777)
To the media there is no difference.
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The Sun, hardly a journalistic beacon, but nevertheless a part of the media, put out a bit entitled 'JET EMERGENCY / Boeing 737 Max 8 plane identical to Ethiopian crash jet in emergency landing'.
Out of respect for intelligence, I will not link to it. |
Originally Posted by DenverBrian
(Post 30934848)
That's the spirit! Fight the good fight! :D :D :D
(The reason these cliick-bait headlines are used is because, well, they work. Never forget that by definition, half of the world is below average IQ.) |
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