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Originally Posted by EWR764
(Post 30868947)
The issue is improper management of a flight control system designed to counteract an aerodynamic consequence of the engine placement, in a narrowly-defined phase of flight, and the cause of the ET crash is hardly assured. It’s disturbing, but I have no qualms stepping aboard a UA MAX right now. |
Originally Posted by kevanyalowitz
(Post 30868957)
Correct. But my understanding is the AoA/trim "issue" is likely the same on any 737 MAX. In other words, the MAX 9 may well have the same issue as the MAX 8. Nevertheless, I too wouldn't have any issues boarding a UA MAX.
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The cause of the ET crash was already released? That was a fast investigation. Could someone point me to the results please?
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Originally Posted by prestonh
(Post 30869024)
The cause of the ET crash was already released? That was a fast investigation. Could someone point me to the results please?
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy
(Post 30869075)
No - the investigation is far fr:(m complete.
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Originally Posted by BB2220
(Post 30869103)
But why let that silly little detail stop us from mass hysteria? |
Originally Posted by txaggiemiles
(Post 30868899)
I have intentionally avoided the max since the lionair crash and will continue to do so. |
Originally Posted by Aussienarelle
(Post 30868734)
Does United fly the 737MAX, or have any on order?
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I avoid the anything newer than a 738 if I can.
Different reason - UA and DL have made them the most uncomfortable planes in their fleets for both cabins. |
I flew a 739MAX OGG-LAX last month. I don't if it's any more prone to crashing (we made it), The United logo placement on the wall you see immediately on boarding was the indicator it was a new aircraft version - I even said "ooh, new plane!" to the FA at the door. It's pretty unique (in placement).
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Originally Posted by EWR764
(Post 30868947)
The issue is improper management of a flight control system designed to counteract an aerodynamic consequence of the engine placement, in a narrowly-defined phase of flight, and the cause of the ET crash is hardly assured. It’s disturbing, but I have no qualms stepping aboard a UA MAX right now. so many things can happen in take-off phase that it is way too early to point to either the aircraft, engines, or crew at this point. Many things are possible, does not mean they are likely. |
US-based pilots are well aware of the issues that lead to the crash of the earlier 737 Max, and have been trained appropriately. It's not just our lives at stake; it's their own too. I regularly train (ride bicycles) with an AA pilot and he's definitely on top of this stuff. I have no issue whatsoever flying a mainline legacy carrier aircraft of any type. I have flown Ethiopian Air, actually the exact same route as this morning's disaster. Like many (not all!!!) carriers outside the US, there is a sense of "fly casual." Flying in the US is extremely safe. Flying elsewhere is likely much safer than any other way to get around (although I might have some misgivings about a few South American carriers; that plane in Peru that burned to the ground a couple years ago... I was on that airline, at that location, just a couple weeks prior. It didn't surprise me. Nobody died if I recall correctly).
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Originally Posted by txaggiemiles
(Post 30869128)
please point me to the mass hysteria |
We should know within 24 hours what the impact of the second crash will have on Wall Street, hysteria notwithstanding. It will be interesting to see how major US carrier-customers of the MAX manage the imminent spin crisis. How many people will really book away from flying on these airplanes?
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Originally Posted by BB2220
(Post 30869243)
Look around you. It’s starting I personally will avoid the aircraft, at least for now. That may change in the future, however even though it's too early to tell what happened in this particular case, I personally (and I think many other people) would like to have a bit more information before voluntarily stepping on to one of these planes. |
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