Will United let you fly to a restricted country, not enter but return to USA?
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Might be best to check out the limited schedule for the hopper first
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#33
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Yes, if you have a ticket say EWR-FRA-IST, and your paperwork is on order, you will be allowed to board in EWR. On arrival in FRA, no one is going to stop you if you decide to forgo your FRA-IST segment and stay in the non-Schengen area. You won't be able to enter the Schengen area, but you're undoubtedly aware of that. If eligible for access, you could enter a lounge that is open before your FRA-IST segment departs, and you could stay in the lounge until closing time, no one is going to throw you out. You could also go duty-free shopping or eat in a concession that is open.
From the non-Schengen area, you could board and fly a return flight FRA-EWR anytime, again no one is going to stop you, and as a US citizen, no CBP officer will stop you from entering the US.
One tidbit. If you ticket everything on UA, your return FRA-EWR flight cannot be around the same timeframe as your ticketed FRA-IST segment, as UA's system will detect an illogical combination (even on different tickets) and cancel one of the segments. Ticketing the outbound on LH and the inbound on UA would work in the past, but there have been reports of them now being able to cross-check each other's reservations. I'm not sure if ticketing on TK and UA would work.
So to be safe, the return would preferably be the next day, which would probably also be your only option anyway given the minimal amount of flights on the schedule. But that's fine, FRA has a hotel in the non-Schengen area, which is why I would prefer FRA over MUC .
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But.... you raise an interesting question! If a passenger books two separate tickets and intends to fly them as a connection, say, with carry-on only, and the passenger is not allowed entry into the country where the first flights lands (for whatever reason) but is allowed into the second, will the airline allow him to board?
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Although not a separate country ( some may argue that point .....), EWR-HNL & return might be an alternative if you’re looking for mileage/segment/etc or just the solitude of flight again. I believe HNL requires quarantine on arrival in most cases but an airport layover would go very much unnoticed. Even if you set off the COVID quarantine alarm and the Storm Troopers capture you, with an immediate return ticket, you are likely safe and mostly within the rules.
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You can't do a USA-USA in YVR without clearing Canadian customs:
https://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/nav...ssenger-guides
So, although you can technically remain airside, you still have to clear Canadian immigration first, and then go through a transit security check, then US pre-clearance (assuming you're departing from US departure hall), before you end up at the US departure hall. If you are somehow allowed to get on a flight to YVR, you would most likely get denied entry to Canada (or you voluntarily withdraw your entry application) - at that point I don't know what would happen - if you have your own ticket, maybe they'll let you take that flight back to the US? Or they put you on the 'next available flight' back to the US on your dime (which could be any airline)
https://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/nav...ssenger-guides
So, although you can technically remain airside, you still have to clear Canadian immigration first, and then go through a transit security check, then US pre-clearance (assuming you're departing from US departure hall), before you end up at the US departure hall. If you are somehow allowed to get on a flight to YVR, you would most likely get denied entry to Canada (or you voluntarily withdraw your entry application) - at that point I don't know what would happen - if you have your own ticket, maybe they'll let you take that flight back to the US? Or they put you on the 'next available flight' back to the US on your dime (which could be any airline)
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The Hawaii quarantine allows you to make an onward connection - so you can land here and leave as long as you don't leave the airport. They've just installed thermal scanners at the airport, so don't arrive sick.
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If you want a halfway decent flight you could do EWR-LAX-EWR with B6's Mint product. They're selling for as low as $399 each way on certain dates at the moment which is pretty good for Mint.
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I understand the desire to get up in the air again, but I would go somewhere where you can actually do and see something. I went to Sweden from the US last month and decided that international travel is really not that fun right now. Interesting, yes, but only if you enjoy witnessing deserted airports and all the new protocols. There was no quarantine in Sweden, making a vacation possible, but wearing a mask for 10+ hours and eating food out of a plastic bag in J isn't actually all that enjoyable. Flying to Europe and never leaving the airport is insane though. If you have to travel internationally I'd go somewhere where you can move around without quarantine. Turkey seems like a good candidate, as mentioned above. FWIW, I'm only planning on domestic travel for the rest of the year.
#43
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The protocols don't bother me. I only lament the lack of open concessions, but usually, I do find an acceptable alternative.
My feeling is that this will remain with us for a long time, especially now that the carriers are realizing how much money they are saving by cutting on food in J. I'm not delaying travel anymore because of this.
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And London too. No entry restrictions, merely a quarantine requirement which is irrelevant if staying at the airport. Offers many more return flight options.
#45
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The advantage with the EU is that you can avoid seeing any narrow-minded border official until back on US soil.