Status of UA's SFO-PVG operations, back to non-stop -- 30 Jan 2023
Mar 21, 2022, 8:39 am
#197
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UA flat-out breaching their "last seat" guaranty. Which is not footnoted or asterisked in any way.
Not really surprising, I'm afraid, if you've followed the downward trajectory of the MP program.
Not really surprising, I'm afraid, if you've followed the downward trajectory of the MP program.
Mar 21, 2022, 1:32 pm
#198
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I messaged them on Messenger just before my SIN-NRT flight took off. Now I'm at NRT and they haven't replied yet.
True, but UA has been charging 250K miles for YN on this route, a decent deal - almost 3cpm, until they zeroed out YN.
This sounds like made up. If "enough revenue seats were sold", then it would be Y0. If they are selling Y, that counts as a seat, and per last seat availability benefit, one should be able to purchase that same seat with miles.
And they've also zeroed out YN, ON and JN on UA858, which has no capacity constraints, until Oct 1st.
True, but UA has been charging 250K miles for YN on this route, a decent deal - almost 3cpm, until they zeroed out YN.
This sounds like made up. If "enough revenue seats were sold", then it would be Y0. If they are selling Y, that counts as a seat, and per last seat availability benefit, one should be able to purchase that same seat with miles.
And they've also zeroed out YN, ON and JN on UA858, which has no capacity constraints, until Oct 1st.
Actually I see saver XN is available for UA 858 in April, May and June. So are YN and ON.
Mar 21, 2022, 2:48 pm
#199
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I do feel that there'll be significant loosening of China's inbound travel restrictions later this year, so I would not pay cash for a non-refundable ticket unless you need to travel immediately. China's very quick approval of Pfizer's Paxlovid and the latest developments in Hong Kong are good signs. I think by fall, China will adopt Hong Kong's new quarantine rules (7-days for vaccinated passengers).
Mar 21, 2022, 4:25 pm
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Last year I occasionally saw XN on UA 857, 35,000 miles for a $5000 economy ticket, 14 cents per mile!
I do feel that there'll be significant loosening of China's inbound travel restrictions later this year, so I would not pay cash for a non-refundable ticket unless you need to travel immediately. China's very quick approval of Pfizer's Paxlovid and the latest developments in Hong Kong are good signs. I think by fall, China will adopt Hong Kong's new quarantine rules (7-days for vaccinated passengers).
I do feel that there'll be significant loosening of China's inbound travel restrictions later this year, so I would not pay cash for a non-refundable ticket unless you need to travel immediately. China's very quick approval of Pfizer's Paxlovid and the latest developments in Hong Kong are good signs. I think by fall, China will adopt Hong Kong's new quarantine rules (7-days for vaccinated passengers).
As to the matter at hand, this is clearly a breach of contract, and while UA reserves the right to make changes to the MP program at any time for any reason, it does not absolve their responsibility from coming up with a written policy and proactively sharing it with all call center staff and customers so everyone is on the same page.
Apr 11, 2022, 10:40 am
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Apr 11, 2022, 11:26 am
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Apr 11, 2022, 2:32 pm
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Either rich Chinese really wanting to get home or businesses who really want someone on the ground in China to supervise some component of their company.
Apr 12, 2022, 9:23 am
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Are there complicated visa reasons why any of the myriad other options connecting in other countries for a fraction of the cost don't work?
Apr 12, 2022, 10:18 am
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For flights to China, as part of the Covid restrictions, you're only allowed to take connecting flights if direct flights don't exist. This means that people in the US, for example, aren't allowed to take a connecting flight into China. The list of requirements to enter the country is quite formidable.
Apr 12, 2022, 11:23 am
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Very complicated COViD test requirements imposed by Chinese government. If one takes SFO-PVG, he/she has to stay at SF area for seven nights before the trip.