United COO to employees: Consider voluntary separation / New 2021 separation program
Jan 22, 2021, 2:04 pm
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The government money they just got doesn't really go to the corporation's pockets. It goes to employee payroll. If UA didn't get it, they would have just kept people on furlough / layoff status instead of recalling them and retro-paying them from December 1.
That is why Kirby is already saying people can expect people to be re-laid-off after March 31 when that funding ends, unless it is extended again. No real difference to UA; they either get the money to recall employees and pay them, or they don't get it and keep them laid off.
That is why Kirby is already saying people can expect people to be re-laid-off after March 31 when that funding ends, unless it is extended again. No real difference to UA; they either get the money to recall employees and pay them, or they don't get it and keep them laid off.
Jan 25, 2021, 1:45 pm
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Corporate malfeasance or kowtowing to the investor class rather than re-investing in the company, its people, etc. are likely more appropriate terms. They knew what they were doing didn't balance more stakeholders' interests.
Jan 30, 2021, 11:09 am
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United Airlines warns thousands of employees that their jobs are again at risk, labor unions seek more government aid
Seem to be an announcement that should not be a surprise
- United Airlines said the jobs of roughly 14,000 employees are at risk when federal aid expires this spring.
- United and American have called back thousands of furloughed workers under an agreement for $15 billion in additional federal aid for the industry.
- The companies are required by law to inform employees if their jobs are at risk, but it doesn’t mean they will ultimately all be cut.
Jan 30, 2021, 1:06 pm
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I do know the Q4 earnings reports from airlines were pretty rough -- but at the same time, with the vaccine distribution now moving forward at a decent clip, I wonder how much political will there will be for another round of aid...
Jan 30, 2021, 1:11 pm
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I'm sure a lot. Hopefully, any more covid relief is directed to the people instead of subsidizing workforces that are too big for the current market.
Jan 30, 2021, 1:14 pm
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Jan 30, 2021, 1:14 pm
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Subsidies for workforces that are too big would just shift to unemployment subsidies if those people were let go. At the time of the original Covid relief legislation, no one could have predicted how long it would last. If you told me in 1st quarter of last year that travel would be as impacted as it is now, I probably wouldn't have believed you. One does not want to cut to the bone and then find yourself short-handed when things rebound.
Jan 30, 2021, 1:42 pm
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Let's not go OMNI, there is plenty of discussion in the OMNI forum on the status / breath of future COVID aid packages --- let's continue that discussion there and stay focus on what UA is doing here.
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Jan 31, 2021, 10:45 pm
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Subsidies for workforces that are too big would just shift to unemployment subsidies if those people were let go. At the time of the original Covid relief legislation, no one could have predicted how long it would last. If you told me in 1st quarter of last year that travel would be as impacted as it is now, I probably wouldn't have believed you. One does not want to cut to the bone and then find yourself short-handed when things rebound.
Feb 10, 2021, 6:31 am
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Specific to UA, they are going to need the pilots which they are trying to keep employed through this government support program. In fact, I heard there even might be a need to start hiring more before the end of the year.
Feb 10, 2021, 7:53 am
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There are some special situations regarding the US airline industry, though. I think most would say the government wouldn't allow a merger between any two of UA, AA, or DL... plus throw in WN for good measure. Allowing one or more to fail, however, would cause the same result.
Specific to UA, they are going to need the pilots which they are trying to keep employed through this government support program. In fact, I heard there even might be a need to start hiring more before the end of the year.
Specific to UA, they are going to need the pilots which they are trying to keep employed through this government support program. In fact, I heard there even might be a need to start hiring more before the end of the year.
Feb 10, 2021, 8:20 am
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Feb 10, 2021, 9:27 am
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The first step in that process would be interviewing. Interviewing is relatively inexpensive so they could proceed with interviewing well before the summer 2022 schedule is known. That would put them in a position to be ready to hire and train if, later on, they decide to staff for a strong summer 2022 schedule.
I have no predictions on hiring or the state of the summer 2022 schedule. The first indication could be whether or not there is any pilot interviewing in late Spring and Summer of this year.
Feb 10, 2021, 10:11 am
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It all depends on the projected schedule for the summer of 2022. If more pilots will be needed for the summer 2022 then pilot hiring would need to start in the second half of 2021 to allow time for the required new-hire, initial, transition, and upgrade training.
The first step in that process would be interviewing. Interviewing is relatively inexpensive so they could proceed with interviewing well before the summer 2022 schedule is known. That would put them in a position to be ready to hire and train if, later on, they decide to staff for a strong summer 2022 schedule.
I have no predictions on hiring or the state of the summer 2022 schedule. The first indication could be whether or not there is any pilot interviewing in late Spring and Summer of this year.
The first step in that process would be interviewing. Interviewing is relatively inexpensive so they could proceed with interviewing well before the summer 2022 schedule is known. That would put them in a position to be ready to hire and train if, later on, they decide to staff for a strong summer 2022 schedule.
I have no predictions on hiring or the state of the summer 2022 schedule. The first indication could be whether or not there is any pilot interviewing in late Spring and Summer of this year.