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Kacee Mar 11, 2020 9:34 pm


Originally Posted by username (Post 32171926)
Well, they did go "no free water" on America West for a while then they retracted. So, hopefully he learned that lesson.

That was US, not HP.

Austin787 Mar 11, 2020 9:41 pm


Originally Posted by username (Post 32171926)
Well, they did go "no free water" on America West for a while then they retracted. So, hopefully he learned that lesson.

They retracted because none of the other legacies matched. If UA,AA, et al matched the water charge, I bet we would still be paying it today

username Mar 11, 2020 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 32172112)
That was US, not HP.

I remember this was 2008 when I was doing BUR-PHX a lot. This pushed me to WN. Right, Wikipedia says HP-US merger happened in 2005. I will fix it.

IAH-OIL-TRASH Mar 12, 2020 3:55 pm

What are chances of UA temporarily shutting Polaris Lounges as long-haul cutbacks (I assume) accelerate? There’s room in UCs and Kirby could blame Covid19.

bocastephen Mar 12, 2020 5:25 pm


Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH (Post 32176064)
What are chances of UA temporarily shutting Polaris Lounges as long-haul cutbacks (I assume) accelerate? There’s room in UCs and Kirby could blame Covid19.

I would say that LAX, EWR, SFO and ORD would be closed, if this happened, while IAH might remain open to serve the deep South American flights, perhaps with more limited hours.

UAL757222 Mar 12, 2020 6:51 pm

I’m very interested to see how he does when he takes over in May handling this crisis and if he can be a true Uniter and navigate through some turbulent skies.

if he’s in the mood to cut some things, I fully support cutting the globe.

iapetus Mar 12, 2020 6:52 pm


Originally Posted by UAL757222 (Post 32176656)
I’m very interested to see how he does when he takes over in May handling this crisis and if he can be a true Uniter and navigate through some turbulent skies.

I wonder if he will be more or less inclined to lean on Oscar for advice through all of this. I'll be hoping it's the former.

worldtrav Mar 12, 2020 7:12 pm

He'd better be looking at every single opportunity to cut costs and preserve cash under the current conditions otherwise he isn't doing his job, the survival of UA is at stake. The bigger question is if any of the cuts become permanent and what the future United product looks like.

kevflyer Mar 13, 2020 9:10 am

Can you credit Kirby for this?


Effective today United Airlines plans to stop offering some seats that used to be available for upgrade to members of their MileagePlus program, holding those back to sell to infrequent customers at check-in instead.
https://viewfromthewing.com/starting...l-at-check-in/

JHake10 Mar 13, 2020 9:27 am


Originally Posted by kevflyer (Post 32178996)

Just when you think you found a silver lining you get Kirby'ed. I'm glad I moved away from UA two years ago.

Austin787 Mar 13, 2020 9:46 am


Originally Posted by kevflyer (Post 32178996)

That has been United's policy long before Kirby came on board.

Silver Fox Mar 13, 2020 9:54 am


Originally Posted by kevflyer (Post 32178996)

This is propaganda, a lie I tell you, a damned lie! I read in another thread that United has the data and that changing the MP program was going to mean more upgrades for the elites, you know, the proper elites. Who will act as their voice? Proper elites have feelings to you know! :)

IAH-OIL-TRASH Mar 13, 2020 10:30 am

Maybe Kirby won't shut down Polaris Clubs after all - maybe start selling passes temporarily for $159 allowing entry 2 hour before a flight.

bocastephen Mar 13, 2020 2:00 pm


Originally Posted by Austin787 (Post 32179181)
That has been United's policy long before Kirby came on board.

No, not in this format or to this level of aggression.

chriskuo Mar 13, 2020 4:01 pm

This seems like a rational business practice. The airlines are going bankrupt and will require a government bailout. It’s not reasonable to criticize the airline for trying to mitigate the damage.


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