Originally Posted by arisaa
(Post 32070109)
Every year my qualification to 1k is dependent on travel to China, say 4 trips per year. Anyone think that UA might cut people like me some slack? I have been 1k since the merger and Plat with CO since 1996 and now at 2.3 MM miles. The only reason I would not qualify for 2021 is this coronavirus thing.
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Originally Posted by arisaa
(Post 32070109)
Every year my qualification to 1k is dependent on travel to China, say 4 trips per year. Anyone think that UA might cut people like me some slack? I have been 1k since the merger and Plat with CO since 1996 and now at 2.3 MM miles. The only reason I would not qualify for 2021 is this coronavirus thing.
Also, given that the criteria have changed to money-only, and China has been a discount market for several years, I wonder if COVID-19 won't turn out to make as much difference as you might guess. |
Originally Posted by arisaa
(Post 32070109)
Every year my qualification to 1k is dependent on travel to China, say 4 trips per year. Anyone think that UA might cut people like me some slack? I have been 1k since the merger and Plat with CO since 1996 and now at 2.3 MM miles. The only reason I would not qualify for 2021 is this coronavirus thing.
Originally Posted by fumje
(Post 32070130)
No chance, sadly, in my estimation.
Originally Posted by Repooc17
(Post 32070129)
How would that be fair for those never fly to China and/or Asia?
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Originally Posted by cricketer
(Post 32070168)
Those who never fly there haven't been negatively impacted. The premise would be "under normal circumstances, all these people would have earned more PQP's, so let's attempt to give them that credit."
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
(Post 32070235)
What if someone had multiple trips planned during the suspension period, but now unable to book. How would UA identify those folks are if they are not able to book? Also, how do you differentiate various elite levels flyers would have earned - there are all kinds of scenarios in play here.
Remember none of this is UA's fault. Life happens. That's also why they may well do nothing at all. |
Originally Posted by SS255
(Post 32069064)
I’ve actually consciously cut back on my travel, since I no longer want to bother qualifying for 1K. The net effect is that I have more money in my pocket to buy F on the fewer trips I’m taking. Going forward as of next year, when flying UA, I will probably be occupying an F seat for which fewer 1K’s will be clamoring for the upgrade. I wonder how many other soon-to-be-ex-1K’s will be applying this same strategy, and what kind of an impact it will have on the fewer 1K’s who will be out there?
In addition, I used to buy lots of close-in coach on UA at the higher fare classes, believing that my UG chances were better. That was just a myth and I now do an ITA search for the cheapest F fare for my close-in bookings. Around a third of the time, I can find F on another carrier cheaper than coach on UA. That seems impossible but I find it regularly. Internationally, I will still use UA so long as I can UG. Once that becomes unreliable, I will just buy the cheapest J out there. |
Originally Posted by cricketer
(Post 32070168)
Don't be so sure. Any year in which I'm going to comfortably clear requirements and other people are struggling, UA hands out bonuses (double EQM, sweet spot SWU's). Any year in which I might be right on the edge, there's no help. Therefore, there's a big bonus coming this year.
Those who never fly there haven't been negatively impacted. The premise would be "under normal circumstances, all these people would have earned more PQP's, so let's attempt to give them that credit." Of course, UA are the ones losing money so they might view this differently. |
Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
(Post 32067438)
Not even mid-February and a lot of the "I'll-never-make-1Kers" are seeing a flicker of light. Maybe the number of 1Ks in 2020 isn't going to change much - lose a few who qualified under old rules, gain a few who qualify under new... :)
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Originally Posted by Exleftseat
(Post 32071834)
...Every change announced by UA is met with strong disapproval on this board and seemingly hoards of people announcing that they are leaving the program. Yet year after year the same people are still around sticking with UA and exploring innovative ways to stay ahead...
Edit: I actually don't mind the decrease in CPUs on the occasional redeye I take eastbound. I sleep better in coach leaning against window than in F where the window is farther away. And I don't partake of F snack. The only thing I give up is my PD Bailey's on ice. |
Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
(Post 32071900)
Agree. I'm pretty at my breakover point w/ United. If it weren't for the non-016 PQP earnings on a single, cheap P trip HNL-LHR this April, I wouldn't still be 1K in 2020. I have no problem w/ segments, but 18k PQPs gets me where I need to go in the style I want. I don't need to spend any more. As it is now, UA CPUs to/from Hawaii have plummeted and I'm buying F on westbounds more than half the time. If UA raises the bar for 2021, I'm gone and I'll use my MM lifetime Gold to some advantage. I'll be a Kayaker who may end up on UA on occasion.
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Can we add a poll to this thread just to get real hard data from an unrepresentative segment of the unrepresentative segments of UA flyers known as Flyertalk: Of course, we can't actually fill out this survey until nearing the end of the year, so perhaps better to hold off.
Covers pretty much all cases, I think. Will re-qualify for 1K with no changes in travel habits Will newly qualify to 1K (from lower status) with no changes in travel habits Will qualify for 1K only by spending more on United Will qualify for 1K only by segment running Will qualify for 1K only by PQD running on other airlines Will drop to Platinum from 1K with no changes in travel habits Will drop to Gold from 1K with no changes in travel habits Will drop to Silver from 1K with no changes in travel habits Will drop to Platinum from 1K including changes in travel habits Will drop to Gold from 1K including changes in travel habits Will drop to Silver from 1K including changes in travel habits Will lose all status including changes in travel habits |
Originally Posted by ryman554
(Post 32072704)
Can we add a poll to this thread just to get real hard data from an unrepresentative segment of the unrepresentative segments of UA flyers known as Flyertalk: Of course, we can't actually fill out this survey until nearing the end of the year, so perhaps better to hold off.
Covers pretty much all cases, I think. Will re-qualify for 1K with no changes in travel habits Will newly qualify to 1K (from lower status) with no changes in travel habits Will qualify for 1K only by spending more on United Will qualify for 1K only by segment running Will qualify for 1K only by PQD running on other airlines Will drop to Platinum from 1K with no changes in travel habits Will drop to Gold from 1K with no changes in travel habits Will drop to Silver from 1K with no changes in travel habits Will drop to Platinum from 1K including changes in travel habits Will drop to Gold from 1K including changes in travel habits Will drop to Silver from 1K including changes in travel habits Will lose all status including changes in travel habits Maybe the dropping to Gold because of MM should be added too. And "Will qualify for 1K only by PQD running on other airlines" should probably be changed to "Will qualify for 1K by mostly PQD running on other airlines". |
Could you add "Will not give a flying .... any longer?" :)
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Originally Posted by ryman554
(Post 32072704)
Can we add a poll to this thread just to get real hard data from an unrepresentative segment of the unrepresentative segments of UA flyers known as Flyertalk: Of course, we can't actually fill out this survey until nearing the end of the year, so perhaps better to hold off.
Covers pretty much all cases, I think. Will re-qualify for 1K with no changes in travel habits Will newly qualify to 1K (from lower status) with no changes in travel habits Will qualify for 1K only by spending more on United Will qualify for 1K only by segment running Will qualify for 1K only by PQD running on other airlines Will drop to Platinum from 1K with no changes in travel habits Will drop to Gold from 1K with no changes in travel habits Will drop to Silver from 1K with no changes in travel habits Will drop to Platinum from 1K including changes in travel habits Will drop to Gold from 1K including changes in travel habits Will drop to Silver from 1K including changes in travel habits Will lose all status including changes in travel habits |
Originally Posted by Silver Fox
(Post 32073149)
Could you add "Will not give a flying .... any longer?" :)
Exactly! Just add "Don't want to requalify". |
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