Agree, 30K for now and keep checking for P+ aisle availability.

No flights are currently booking with PE. UA has indicated it will start selling them on Dec. 3.

Would you swap your seat for a domestic F "window" seat with no window? That's about the best comparison -- don't expect enough room to climb out without disturbing a neighbor like on the old 77H, but you're still talking about moving up one class of service in terms of hard product. I would take it without a second thought.

Or an aisle E+ vs. a middle seat in the 2-4-2 IPTE configuration . . . easy choice to move up.

Any idea which routes will initially be for sale? Will award redemptions start at the same time? I noticed NH will start award redemptions for PE on December 5, 2018.

A good guess would be, at a minimum, the six routes that were announced as 781 routes from EWR.

UA Announces Six International 787-10 Routes

I just flew PE from ORD to PEK on the 777.

Things I liked:
Big giant TV, bigger seat, very empty cabin
They had the MDW IPA to drink!

I actually think the flight attendants were better than my recent experience flying Polaris, where I had a bunch of crusty old angry flight attendants who hated my existence.

Things I disliked:
- The foot rest has an awkward location and sort of impedes in the area underneath my feet. I apparently have huge feet because I can't really fit my feet below the seat in front of me. Same thing in Polaris with the little foot rest port.

- There is a big gap between the end of the seat and window. Good spot to add storage like they did on the 747 upper deck.

- It feels cramped. I know if I would have had a seat mate it would have sucked

- The cabin echos, so when you have a loud guy yelling in his cell phone in chinese (of course, SINCE THE FLIGHT WAS TOO CHINA) it becomes very noisy.

Sorry, LO Premium Economy serves a J meal.

If you ever want to experience a sorry excuse for a premium economy cabin, fly Air Canada. Hopefully UA will be more like NZ or LO, and less like AC.

What am I missing? It's not Dec 3rd yet :)

I didn't say flying, I said booking. You can't book a PE fare yet.

Yea so some of the 777 flights switch to the first three rows in economy to a 2 -4 - 2 seat chart. Those are one with P.E. seating, so just choose that seat and you in.

I'm sitting in one of the seats now GRU-ORD, initially I kind of liked it,l but now 8 hours into the flight I'm much less enamored with it. The big screen and noise canceling headphones are nice. However 2 big issues I've found, the seat bottom cushion is way too high, so at this point the back of my thighs hurt and I'm tall, I can imagine this will be worse for shorter people. The second complaint, and this is a big one, the seat backs are really flimsy, so when the person in front of you is reclined, then they come back from the lav, plop down in their seat at full force, that seat back comes WAY back before springing back forward. It hit my laptop screen several times already. On the plus side, I got quite a bit of sleep, not sure though if that's a result of the seat or just being totally exhausted.

I don't see this as something that I'll be paying for on any sort of regular basis over Economy Plus. They'd have to be offering some really attractive fares, like maybe only $100 over what a regular E+ seat would cost me and I'm sure that's not normally going to be the case.

Not a fan at all. Flew it last week. The seats don't feel any wider to me than normal Y (i realize they are, but it didn't feel that way), the legroom seemed about the same as E+. The footrest was super awkward. On a 12 hour flight, I would not pay more than $75 to get here versus E+ and truthfully, I probably wouln't even pay that.

Looks like the SFO/AKL 777-300er flight will too. The seat map shows fixed PE seating after 1/1/19.