I just flew AC PE, which has dividers. I was in the bulkhead, but didn't mind it as the 789 has OH bins large enough to stack my suitcase and backpack. I've also flown LH PE without dividers. Much prefer having dividers.
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Just flew AA and there was no divider.
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On LH, it depends on the aircraft. Some have a fully separate section for PE and some do not. The 744s have several rows of Y in the same section as PE with no divider. I think that, when possible, they tried to keep the PE section in a separate section, but also didn't go our of their way to add dividers. It will be interesting to see if UA adds dividers to all of their planes. Having a divider that takes away an overhead bin is just plain stupid.
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My impression with the PE seats on the 777 was that even though they were 2-4-2, with the comparatively large amount of space devoted to arm rests, tray tables and storage, it made the seats feel not much wider than a Y seat on many other a/c. The thigh support for a tall person, especially when reclining, was better than a standard economy and even some domestic F seats.
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Originally Posted by Say Vandelay
(Post 30425297)
My impression with the PE seats on the 777 was that even though they were 2-4-2, with the comparatively large amount of space devoted to arm rests, tray tables and storage, it made the seats feel not much wider than a Y seat on many other a/c.
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Originally Posted by lhrsfo
(Post 30421390)
Two immediate thoughts on this.
First, why put a divider in at all? You lose the overhead bin, and you cut the leg room for the E+ seat immediately behind it. It's not at all uncommon to have a soft, or no, division between PE and E. |
Originally Posted by Silver Fox
(Post 30424015)
I find the lack of toilets really annoying in PP/E+/E. There is no way that 4 are even close to enough. I never used to like to walk through to business/Polaris to use theirs but now I have no qualms about it if I need to go.
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These seats look pretty uncomfortable...also surprised that they're not in "shells" like Air France and some others.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/busine...d-your-dollar/ |
Just flew SFO-IAD and was able to snag a Premium+ seat right at boarding. Seat is comfy, didn't think it was too hard. The leg rest and foot rest are a bit awkward - not enough room to use both. Screen is nice and crisp and the touchscreen and remote are responsive. The placement of the headphone jack and power outlet are also a bit awkward. Have to contort yourself to use them. It's a nice seat for daytime flights at least - not sure how comfy it will be for sleeping.
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Originally Posted by hughw
(Post 30426155)
These seats look pretty uncomfortable...also surprised that they're not in "shells" like Air France and some others.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/busine...d-your-dollar/ While I haven't tried it yet (and actually hope not to), sounds like one of the better PE seats out there. |
Originally Posted by smxflyer
(Post 30426265)
... not sure how comfy it will be for sleeping.
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Originally Posted by Tabby Dowling
(Post 30421498)
I'm glad more airlines are doing actual areas for this. Never fly premium with Delta. I did one time thinking it'd be nice. Hell no. Me and my daughter were just in normal seats with more leg room. We didn't even get any of the perks that are supposed to come with premium. It was a waste of money. Make sure with any airline including United that you are 100% sure you're going to get premium seating and not just normal seats with more leg room.
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Originally Posted by MBS MillionMiler
(Post 30427527)
Be careful what you’re booking/buying into. What you describe sounds like Delta’s Comfort Plus...Which, as far as the seat goes, is indeed just more legroom, much like United’s Economy Plus (neither of which is a separate cabin)...It is not marketed as nor is it in reality, a Premium Economy. They do have a comparable product to United’s Premium Plus being described here, and that’s Premium Select, which offers a wider seat and footrest in a separate cabin.
Customers are going to be invariably disappointed unless it is crystal-clear what they are buying. We now have BE, E, E+ and P+. To an infrequent flyer, that is too many choices, and they are further confused by the benefits/limitations of each class. My opinion is that this experiment will fail. |
Originally Posted by zombietooth
(Post 30428199)
My opinion is that this experiment will fail.
For me, it's not too soon that UA puts a Premium Economy. I'm not in the lucky position that my employer pays Business Class for my international long hauls so I have to pay the difference between the Economy fare and the Business Class fare (or upgrade with instruments or take a TOD but those are never guaranteed to be available). I'd rather pay the difference between the Economy fare and the Premium Economy fare as from my experience flying on BA, I know that I arrive in good shape at my destination when I fly Premium Economy. |
Originally Posted by StuckinITH
(Post 30428238)
Why should it? I have flown Premium Economy on BA since the early 2000's and it still exists.
For me, it's not too soon that UA puts a Premium Economy. I'm not in the lucky position that my employer pays Business Class for my international long hauls so I have to pay the difference between the Economy fare and the Business Class fare (or upgrade with instruments or take a TOD but those are never guaranteed to be available). I'd rather pay the difference between the Economy fare and the Premium Economy fare as from my experience flying on BA, I know that I arrive in good shape at my destination when I fly Premium Economy. UA is already marketing E+ as, "more comfort and greater legroom". Customers have learned that and paid for E+ subscriptions or up charges. Now, they will be marketing an "even better economy plus" and I just don't think that its going to catch-on, especially since it's going to cost double. I fly on my own dime and would likely never buy this product-but I know how uncomfortable the new seats are. |
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