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Old Sep 8, 2018, 11:07 pm
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Originally Posted by timezone_trooper
... gives me a WLRCVAO fare when searching o/w. I've been toying with forcing a r/t in ITA via SFO/HKG but I can't seem to make it work on one itin.
That appears to be an actual one-way-only fare, which is very rare...

Many fares are "one-way", but two of these can normally be combined to form a "round trip".

However this one is a one-way fare :
ONE WAY ADVANCE PURCHASE FARES W
APPLIES FOR ONE WAY FARES
But is explicitly excludes being combined to form a round trip :
Category 10: Combinability
SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOT
PERMITTED.
Searching for two one-way trip and then trying to combine them is rarely the best way to find a round-trip combination - especially for international trips. Normally that's because the price will be lower for a single round-trip, but non-combinable fares like you've found here is another reason...
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Old Sep 8, 2018, 11:08 pm
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Originally Posted by docbert
To get some more options, you can also use :

AUS:: UA+ ? /f bc=w bc=v bc=q
SGN:: ? UA+ /f bc=w bc=v bc=q

This will show you some routing via ORD, as well as some options on NH.

Occasionally you'll find V fares that are cheaper than W, so it's worth including it in the searches, although his time it does look like W is the lowest.
I normally include all of the eligible fare codes, because I'd rather see a possible connection with an expensive fare class, so that I can investigate to see why it's expensive and if there's a workaround, than have it suppressed.

Note that there are supposed to be vertical bar characters between the BCs, but they're being stripped by the forum software. (Shift-\ on a US keyboard layout).

Originally Posted by docbert
But is explicitly excludes being combined to form a round trip :
Agreed; that's probably what the OP was running into when trying to construct this originally. However, the round-trip W fares seem to be filed at about the same price point.
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Old Sep 8, 2018, 11:15 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
I normally include all of the eligible fare codes, because I'd rather see a possible connection with an expensive fare class, so that I can investigate to see why it's expensive and if there's a workaround, than have it suppressed.
Fair point (fare point?). I booked a SFO-SYD-BNE-SYD-SFO trip recently. I'd originally been lazy and checked the prices in W only. Then I looked it up on the UA website and it found what I wanted for a cheaper fare - at which point I discovered it was in V, and V was cheaper than W. It's also not uncommon for no W fare to be booked for certain routes.

Originally Posted by jsloan
Note that there are supposed to be vertical bar characters between the BCs, but they're being stripped by the forum software. (Shift-\ on a US keyboard layout).
Not sure if that was the form software or a cut-n-paste error, but editing the post and putting them back in done appear to have worked. Thanks for pointing it out!
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Old Sep 8, 2018, 11:22 pm
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Originally Posted by docbert
Not sure if that was the form software or a cut-n-paste error, but editing the post and putting them back in done appear to have worked. Thanks for pointing it out!
No problem. It was definitely the software, because I originally had all of the eligible fare classes in my post, and then the same thing happened to mine, but I couldn't figure out how to fix it, so I just took out all of the classes except W.
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Old Sep 9, 2018, 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by timezone_trooper
The return is SGN-HKG-SFO-AUS on 13 Jan (HX539/UA862/UA701) which gives me a WLRCVAO fare when searching o/w. I've been toying with forcing a r/t in ITA via SFO/HKG but I can't seem to make it work on one itin.
Originally Posted by jsloan
I get a roundtrip fare of $1383.21 on ITA Matrix, using WLX3ZUJG on the outbound and WLW05UJA on the return.

The search I did was:
UA SFO UA HKG HX // f bc=w on the outbound, and
HX HKG UA SFO UA // f bc=w on the return.
As noted, the WLRCVAO fare is for the SGN market, and needs to be on a PNR with an origin in SE Asia. You cannot combine it into a round-trip on a single US-origin PNR. You should use whichever of that or jsloan's solutions costs less unless there is some significant benefit to making them on the same ticket.
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Old Sep 10, 2018, 9:16 am
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Originally Posted by findark
As noted, the WLRCVAO fare is for the SGN market, and needs to be on a PNR with an origin in SE Asia. You cannot combine it into a round-trip on a single US-origin PNR. You should use whichever of that or jsloan's solutions costs less unless there is some significant benefit to making them on the same ticket.
Copy that - waiting for my GPUs to hit my account and will book on one ticket for simplicity.
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Old Sep 10, 2018, 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by docbert
Fair point (fare point?). I booked a SFO-SYD-BNE-SYD-SFO trip recently. I'd originally been lazy and checked the prices in W only. Then I looked it up on the UA website and it found what I wanted for a cheaper fare - at which point I discovered it was in V, and V was cheaper than W. It's also not uncommon for no W fare to be booked for certain routes.



Not sure if that was the form software or a cut-n-paste error, but editing the post and putting them back in done appear to have worked. Thanks for pointing it out!
Originally Posted by jsloan
No problem. It was definitely the software, because I originally had all of the eligible fare classes in my post, and then the same thing happened to mine, but I couldn't figure out how to fix it, so I just took out all of the classes except W.
My current (if somewhat imprecise) understanding of the forum software is that the standard 'reply' form applies a relatively heavy interpretation to the text entered, so formatting special characters may wind up being stripped without warning, but the 'edit' and 'preview' forms do less second guessing. I think there are some more nuances, but I can't recall them; it's unfortunate that there's no clear visual cue as to which behaviour you'll get, though.
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