Realistic and actionable items United can change (or not) to make MileagePlus better
#16
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 2,438
Here are some I'd like to see:
- Access to Polaris as a GS in Y IF waitlisted with a GPU for an upgrade that hasn't or may not clear - this is the only time as a GS I expect to be flying int'l Y.
- Waiver of upgrade co-pays
- Ability to select E+ on an award ticket booked by a Plat or higher for someone else - even <24 hours would be nice
- Access to Polaris as a GS in Y IF waitlisted with a GPU for an upgrade that hasn't or may not clear - this is the only time as a GS I expect to be flying int'l Y.
- Waiver of upgrade co-pays
- Ability to select E+ on an award ticket booked by a Plat or higher for someone else - even <24 hours would be nice
#17
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Boston MA
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott T, HH D, IHG SA.
Posts: 150
#18
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Houston
Programs: UA 1K and Million Miler, *A Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, Hertz Five Star,
Posts: 1,301
Dump the PQD requirement for MM fliers
Make GPUs usable
Never bump a 1k/GS or reseat even after an "aircraft change"
Bring back GE/TSA Pre reimbursement for 1k+
Make GPUs usable
Never bump a 1k/GS or reseat even after an "aircraft change"
Bring back GE/TSA Pre reimbursement for 1k+
#20
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: ORD
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Platinum/LT Platinum, Hilton Gold
Posts: 5,594
I've never understood the selfishness of wanting to take away someone else's benefits. It's not like there aren't typically exit row seats available a few days out, so why take away the benefit from Gold and Platinum at booking? Even when I SDC, I can often get exit row.
Exit and E+ are the two greatest benefits for Gold and Plat in my opinion. SDC for those who use it often.
My recommendation for change is to offer an alternative way to make status. There have been several years where I've spent $15-20k and end up with 60k PQM. I'm not complaining about the current system, but it would seem fair to reward people in that situation with at least one higher status level (i.e. bump to Plat in this scenario).
Exit and E+ are the two greatest benefits for Gold and Plat in my opinion. SDC for those who use it often.
My recommendation for change is to offer an alternative way to make status. There have been several years where I've spent $15-20k and end up with 60k PQM. I'm not complaining about the current system, but it would seem fair to reward people in that situation with at least one higher status level (i.e. bump to Plat in this scenario).
#21
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: AA Plat, UA 1K>Plat>moving to Silver
Posts: 2,090
This. I've been able to use two TATL. I've begun to look on them as like RPUs - stick them on domestic flights, just to see if they clear at some point. One has, another is still waitlisted, and two more are sitting there, with only one more international flight yet to be purchased for December, with no R yet available. Since I only buy international tickets if they have R at purchase, those will probably go towards domestic flights at some point as well, just to use them up (assuming I have not already just taken a TOD or cheap GG BUYUP).
I will probably be 1K again this year, but that is only due to UA having the routes I need. Now that I have hit 1K, I can't say that the GPUs would be a draw otherwise. Just saved me some miles (which I have a ton of from credit cards anyway) or having to pay an occasional TOD.
I will probably be 1K again this year, but that is only due to UA having the routes I need. Now that I have hit 1K, I can't say that the GPUs would be a draw otherwise. Just saved me some miles (which I have a ton of from credit cards anyway) or having to pay an occasional TOD.
#22
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: PHL
Programs: UA 1K 1MM, Marriott Gold, IHG Platinum, Raddison Platinum, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 5,271
I don't expect United to revert to a miles flown system. That said, there are a few things I'd propose United change and those that it should keep, to make MileagePlus better:
Keep
Change
What's your list?
Keep
- E+ Access for Gold+ at booking; i.e. no DL-style "upgrade" system
- Front cabins in domestic aircraft at current ratios
- Global Upgrade redemptions on certain JV partners
- 100/75/50/25% premier mileage bonus on non-016-ticketed JV partners
- Excursionist perk
- Standard awards capped at one level, always available for elites
- GS/1K food/beverage benefit in Y cabin
- Industry-leading mobile app
- Companion upgrade policies
- GS/1K meal preference in premium cabin
Change
- 100% BIS flown, if less than $ x multiplier earned, no matter what, for elites
- GS, 1K get only exit row access pre X days out from departure
- Option to exchange 4 RPUs as 1K for 1 'rule buster' positive space RPU
- Option to exchange 6 GPUs as 1K for 3 'valid for any fare' space available GPUs
- Polaris Lounge Access for GS in Y
- Option to buy a seat in BE 48 hours out -- match AA
- Accrue lifetime miles in BE, as it's time spent on United aircraft -- BIS
- Add ability to accrue PQD on partners (but fair -- AAs is exploitable)
- Treat JV revenue sharing partners as equal for GS, PQD purposes
What's your list?
GPU should not have any restriction on fare but UA obviously has some "goal" for GPU/RPU usage/wastage they want to meet so I don't see them making it easier.
They should have some minimum like 2 seats on every flight that can be upgraded with GPU/RPU then apply whatever marketing factors. If the cabin is empty, they should not have R=0 under any circumstances. Having pretty much every PS flight R=0 or every SFO-SIN flight R=0 even when no one has booked a ticket yet is ridiculous.
YBM should be not have any restrictions. When you're paying that much for a Y ticket, they should just let you upgrade.
UA should allow lounge access to any *G or anyone in F like other *A airlines. But I agree, a GS should at least be allowed. They should also allow any domestic F into the lounge as well. What they really need is more lounges and have showers
Another option, bring back the Chase statement credit for GS/1K. Give a bigger credit if you get the club card.
Also, bring back the global entry credit
As for PQD, they should count ANY money given to UA (ie change fee, upgrade fee). They should also allow bulkfare and non-016. My parents take cruises alot and have to book via cruise companies. This is because they are forced into a full fare ticket because they may leave from the US and return from another country. Yet the cruise company can offer a reasonable fare. However, all those fares are bulk fares so they receive zero PQD.
Out of everything, the most REASONABLE thing they should offer is free WIFI using your MP login for GS/1K.
Last edited by eng3; May 4, 2017 at 9:44 am
#24
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: UA 1K 1MM, AA, DL
Posts: 7,418
Yes . . . it's puzzled me why they wouldn't allow GPUs on any fare at least for battlefield upgrades or 24-48 hours before. It uses the GPU for a seat that may go out empty . . . even put <W GPUs at bottom of list if necessary.
#25
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Suburban Philadelphia
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Plat, IHG Gold
Posts: 3,392
Dump the copay on Intl mileage upgrades. Not sure why UA wouldn't want me to use my miles? Aren't they a liability on their books?
All spending on UA (fees etc) and tickets on *A partners counts as PQDs
All spending on UA (fees etc) and tickets on *A partners counts as PQDs
#27
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: dark side of the moon
Programs: papa card, UA 1K
Posts: 707
You are obviously well informed to know that this currently isn't the case. (Pax who have knowledge regarding unpublished GS information seem to be rarer than R on PS). Anyway my understanding is that there have been rumblings about including LH but I think it's going to stick with just UA metal.
#28
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Houston
Programs: UA 1K and Million Miler, *A Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, Hertz Five Star,
Posts: 1,301
#29
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: SFO
Programs: BART Platinum, AA Plat Pro
Posts: 1,158
How about make the "loyalty program" actually reward loyalty? Loyalty does not mean picking UA whenever it offers a competitive product and price -- it means still picking UA even when it doesn't offer that. UA knows what its competitors' fares are on the routes it flies at any given time. So set the PQD thresholds to something like 5k/10k/15k/20k, and then award PQD with the following formula:
1 PQD per dollar spent
5 bonus PQD per dollar spent on the difference between the UA fare and the lowest competing fare for time/routes that are "business heavy" (e.g., if the UA fare costs $100 more, you get 500 bonus PQD)
10 bonus PQD per dollar spent on the difference between the UA fare and the lowest competing fare for time/routes that are "leisure heavy"
#30
Join Date: May 2016
Location: SLC
Programs: United Gold, Hilton Silver, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 768
My biggest issue is with redemption - restore the old system, and allow customers to put together routes based on availability for each segment. As it is, finding TATL routes in Business or First has become almost impossible.
The other thing that has also been mentioned is the severe reduction in mileage earned based on miles flown. For example, a recent trip DEN-MCO-DEN earned approximately 1/3 of the actual miles flown.
The other thing that has also been mentioned is the severe reduction in mileage earned based on miles flown. For example, a recent trip DEN-MCO-DEN earned approximately 1/3 of the actual miles flown.