So how does UA win back the flying public? (Beyond the obvious)
#376
Join Date: May 2004
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UA Still does not understand
All the pledges to change overbooking procedures miss the big issue. The overbooking response was a symptom not the disease. The disease is the UA has almost no customer focus. Top to bottom the employees don't care. Some are downright nasty on the job. A friend flying long haul from South American had a FA who was beyond insolent when she dared ask about the wine selection. In some ways, that says more about UA than dragging Dr. Dao off the plane. The airline is delusional if it believes changing overbooking rules will solve the problem. It won't. I for one refuse to fly UA based on this pervasive bad attitude that dates back to the union ownership.
#377
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Funny article on Marketwatch this morning:
"Tribeca Film Festival audience erupted with laughter at this United business class commercial"
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rad...of2&yptr=yahoo
I wouldn't read too much into this... but certainly laughter is not the reaction the airline would hope for in response to a commercial.
"Tribeca Film Festival audience erupted with laughter at this United business class commercial"
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rad...of2&yptr=yahoo
I wouldn't read too much into this... but certainly laughter is not the reaction the airline would hope for in response to a commercial.
#378
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: BOS
Posts: 3,534
I received a boilerplate email response to the letter I mailed to the UA corporate headquarters. It repeated what they had stated previously that they would announce findings/changes by April 30th. It did not address any of the specific concerns I had raised. As far as I'm concerned UA will stay in the mix of carriers but they're now just one of many options here in BOS.
#379
Join Date: Feb 2008
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PPP Poll: 40% say UA is worst airline, net favability has dropped 44 points.
The massive damage to UA's reputation over the last 4 years is shown in a new PPP poll, which people may find of interest: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...onal_42017.pdf
findings:
-In 2013 United had a +20 net favorability rating (33/13). It's dropped a net 44 points to -24 at 23/47 as of today.
- When we asked who people thought the worst airline in the country was in 2013 UA was closely bunched with American getting 10%, Delta 9%, United 8%, and Southwest 6%. Today, United 'wins' by a wide margin with 40% saying it's the worst airline to 10% for
American, 8% for Southwest, and 6% for Delta.
- Currently 35% say SWA is the best airline, 20% for Delta, 14% for American, and just 4% for United.
- 58% of voters seeing SWA positively, 9% have a negative opinion.
- Delta has seen an improvement in its image since 2013- it went from a +22
favorability at 35/13 to a +31 one at 45/14.
- American's gone in the wrong direction- it was at +21 (36/15) in 2013 and has dropped now to +4 at 31/27.
findings:
-In 2013 United had a +20 net favorability rating (33/13). It's dropped a net 44 points to -24 at 23/47 as of today.
- When we asked who people thought the worst airline in the country was in 2013 UA was closely bunched with American getting 10%, Delta 9%, United 8%, and Southwest 6%. Today, United 'wins' by a wide margin with 40% saying it's the worst airline to 10% for
American, 8% for Southwest, and 6% for Delta.
- Currently 35% say SWA is the best airline, 20% for Delta, 14% for American, and just 4% for United.
- 58% of voters seeing SWA positively, 9% have a negative opinion.
- Delta has seen an improvement in its image since 2013- it went from a +22
favorability at 35/13 to a +31 one at 45/14.
- American's gone in the wrong direction- it was at +21 (36/15) in 2013 and has dropped now to +4 at 31/27.
#380
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: SF Bay Area
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Other corporate brands have recovered from PR crisis
Let's but this in context with other industry's. Recently VW had a huge world wide scandal that has resulted in huge settlements with both European and US regulators. I've recently heard that their market share has grown in spite of this. Back in the 80's Tylenol had to overcome people being poisoned to death when some kept tapering their product.
UA Brand was not that strong going into the crisis and they obviously have not handled it well, in the long run if they do change their overbooking/bumping customers for crew rules it will result in a better more customer friendly airline.
What a lot of people are chiming in on in this thread is the UA corporate culture in regards to Customer Service. Or specifically individual instances where they have received poor customer service from UA employees. This is a deeper problem that dates back to the bankruptcy, the effect that had on the workforce, the Simsek era, and the most likely worst managed merger in airline history. Which again affected the new combined labor force drastically. These deeper systemic problems which Munoz was trying to address will take longer to address.
-Paul
UA Brand was not that strong going into the crisis and they obviously have not handled it well, in the long run if they do change their overbooking/bumping customers for crew rules it will result in a better more customer friendly airline.
What a lot of people are chiming in on in this thread is the UA corporate culture in regards to Customer Service. Or specifically individual instances where they have received poor customer service from UA employees. This is a deeper problem that dates back to the bankruptcy, the effect that had on the workforce, the Simsek era, and the most likely worst managed merger in airline history. Which again affected the new combined labor force drastically. These deeper systemic problems which Munoz was trying to address will take longer to address.
-Paul
#381
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Consider the polling dates before making any long-term assessments.
The queries (read the whole document and the polling mechanism) were directly related to the events of last week.
The queries (read the whole document and the polling mechanism) were directly related to the events of last week.
#382
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My guess is that had this poll been done before April 10, United would have been below AA, but not by this much.
#383
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just back from a rt from iah-lhr using points. coach going over and business first back. going over the meal choices were pasta or chicken. I took the chicken. turned out to be an indian meal. since when did UA start serving indian food on iah-lhr? worst meal ever on UA. food coming back wasn't that great either.
#384
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They don't have to win me back, i'm staying with them as one instance is an outlier...... As many have stated as long as my GPU's clear I'll stay loyal and my percentage is 90% roughly over my 9 years with UA.
#385
Join Date: Apr 2017
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just back from a rt from iah-lhr using points. coach going over and business first back. going over the meal choices were pasta or chicken. I took the chicken. turned out to be an indian meal. since when did UA start serving indian food on iah-lhr? worst meal ever on UA. food coming back wasn't that great either.
#386
Join Date: Aug 1999
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Win me back? Where would I start... #MunozFail
#387
Join Date: Dec 2015
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I don't know about you, but if I was physically at the gate in a pool of sweat because I just ran a 1 mile sprint to get to my connecting gate and the GA closed the door on me (with a smile) I'd be fuming and UA would be getting a phone call from me the very next morning.
They usually will give you vouchers or something similar for situations like that. But their employees they have as GA's and service employees? They just.... NO SYMPATHY. At all.
#388
Join Date: Nov 2005
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And I did complain - quite emphatically - but when the GA simply stared at me and then walked away, there's not much to be done. And yes, you can complain, but that gets you maybe a few miles or an e-cert, but does nothing to fix the underlying problem.
#389
Join Date: Jul 2009
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To win me back UA would have to:
1. Stop selling F seats at check-in for tens of dollars to kettles instead of CPU-ing Premiers
2. Bring back gate pass for UC members
3. Bring back ch9 to aircraft it was removed from and add to CO planes as promised
4. Bring back drink chits for Golds
5. Stop charging copay for EWR-SFO mileage upgrades, which never clear anyways
6. Stop giving away F and E+ seats to non-revs in leggings
1. Stop selling F seats at check-in for tens of dollars to kettles instead of CPU-ing Premiers
2. Bring back gate pass for UC members
3. Bring back ch9 to aircraft it was removed from and add to CO planes as promised
4. Bring back drink chits for Golds
5. Stop charging copay for EWR-SFO mileage upgrades, which never clear anyways
6. Stop giving away F and E+ seats to non-revs in leggings
#390
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: East or West
Posts: 388
Funny article on Marketwatch this morning:
"Tribeca Film Festival audience erupted with laughter at this United business class commercial"
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rad...of2&yptr=yahoo
I wouldn't read too much into this... but certainly laughter is not the reaction the airline would hope for in response to a commercial.
"Tribeca Film Festival audience erupted with laughter at this United business class commercial"
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rad...of2&yptr=yahoo
I wouldn't read too much into this... but certainly laughter is not the reaction the airline would hope for in response to a commercial.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ram...estival-997070