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United's Announcement and FAQ
Kacee's Interpretation
Main Impact Since October 6
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This is an archive thread, the active thread is Award booking questions/ issues/ routing/ excursionist problems / help
Kacee's Interpretation
Main Impact Since October 6
- Fee Changes such as platinum members are subject to various award fees
- No more free stopover - replaced with Excursionist Perk
- Agents no longer have the ability to find routings that do not show up on united.com
- Manually constructing trips using multi-city search results in multiple award fares being charged
- Changing any segment MIGHT require current availability for all existing Os&Ds in the PNR (as if a brand new booking is made) - YMMV
- Singapore Airlines segments are priced separately (add-ons)
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This is an archive thread, the active thread is Award booking questions/ issues/ routing/ excursionist problems / help
UA award booking,change questions/fees/issues/routing/excursionist problems {Archive}
#3136
Join Date: Apr 2019
Programs: UA & AA
Posts: 4
Question about reward booking
Hi,
I have a question about the reward option and hope to see if you guys can provide some alternative suggestion. I am looking at the biz class reward for LAS-ORD, TPE-PEK, PEK-ORD. The route for LAS-ORD is added so I can take the excursionist perk (TPE-PEK). However, that route does not need to in Biz class.
The question I have is that if I don’t take Biz/first Class on ORD/LAS route, the TPE/PEK won’t be zero miles if I want to take Biz Class. As an example, if I don’t take biz on first leg, total miles will be 125.5k (Eco, Biz, Biz). If I take biz, the total miles is 120k (first, biz, biz). The first leg of eco is a bit higher due to the date I can travel. So there is some saving but not by much. Any thoughts or suggestion that I maybe missing something?
I have a question about the reward option and hope to see if you guys can provide some alternative suggestion. I am looking at the biz class reward for LAS-ORD, TPE-PEK, PEK-ORD. The route for LAS-ORD is added so I can take the excursionist perk (TPE-PEK). However, that route does not need to in Biz class.
The question I have is that if I don’t take Biz/first Class on ORD/LAS route, the TPE/PEK won’t be zero miles if I want to take Biz Class. As an example, if I don’t take biz on first leg, total miles will be 125.5k (Eco, Biz, Biz). If I take biz, the total miles is 120k (first, biz, biz). The first leg of eco is a bit higher due to the date I can travel. So there is some saving but not by much. Any thoughts or suggestion that I maybe missing something?
#3137
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,412
Not really. The itinerary that you want doesn't really lend itself well to the Excursionist Perk, especially if the only reason to take the first flight is to get the second flight for free. As you point out, there's not much of a savings.
UA intended for you to buy ORD-TPE / TPE-PEK / PEK-ORD and get TPE-PEK for free; the fact that it works with LAS-ORD is likely an oversight on their part (and one which I expect will be eliminated during a future program update).
#3138
Join Date: Apr 2019
Programs: UA & AA
Posts: 4
Correct.
Not really. The itinerary that you want doesn't really lend itself well to the Excursionist Perk, especially if the only reason to take the first flight is to get the second flight for free. As you point out, there's not much of a savings.
UA intended for you to buy ORD-TPE / TPE-PEK / PEK-ORD and get TPE-PEK for free; the fact that it works with LAS-ORD is likely an oversight on their part (and one which I expect will be eliminated during a future program update).
Not really. The itinerary that you want doesn't really lend itself well to the Excursionist Perk, especially if the only reason to take the first flight is to get the second flight for free. As you point out, there's not much of a savings.
UA intended for you to buy ORD-TPE / TPE-PEK / PEK-ORD and get TPE-PEK for free; the fact that it works with LAS-ORD is likely an oversight on their part (and one which I expect will be eliminated during a future program update).
#3139
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 26
I see an issue with excursionist perk when booking mixed class cabin.
I know for a fact that a few months ago this used to work, but it doesn't seem to be the case any longer
1. AAA-BBB-CCC (Mixed Cabin Biz)
2. CCC-DDD (Biz)
3. DDD-AAA (Economy)
I believe the second leg on this trip on Biz should be free, but only the economy was free and so I had no choice, but to book economy flight.
It seems to be happening only when first flight is a mixed cabin as opposed to a full Biz flight. If the first flight is full Biz, then the second flight will be free on Biz.
If this is an error with the system will I be able to call in and have them manually change my flight to a business class flight for free?
I know for a fact that a few months ago this used to work, but it doesn't seem to be the case any longer
1. AAA-BBB-CCC (Mixed Cabin Biz)
2. CCC-DDD (Biz)
3. DDD-AAA (Economy)
I believe the second leg on this trip on Biz should be free, but only the economy was free and so I had no choice, but to book economy flight.
It seems to be happening only when first flight is a mixed cabin as opposed to a full Biz flight. If the first flight is full Biz, then the second flight will be free on Biz.
If this is an error with the system will I be able to call in and have them manually change my flight to a business class flight for free?
#3140
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,412
If the Y segments are on UA, you can also ask to be waitlisted for business on those flights.
#3141
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 26
The Y segment is domestic, how would I go about getting wait listed for domestic first in this case?
#3142
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,412
When you call, just point out that it's a mixed award, and ask if you could be put on the waitlist for first class on the domestic segment. Don't use the word "upgrade."
#3144
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,412
If the agent doesn't seem to understand your request, don't argue or escalate -- just HUCA (Hang Up and Call Again). Not all agents are familiar with the waitlist process.
#3145
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, MLife Gold, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Caesars Diamond, Amex Plat
Posts: 5,943
We've got 5x award tickets booked via ANA on UA metal IAH-CUN / CZM-IAH next month. Staying in Playa del Carmen. Planned to take the ferry that morning to catch the flight at 1 PM. Today the ferry service was suspended due to bad weather, so now I'd like to have a back up plan if this occurs on the day of our flight home. I'm assuming I'd contact UA that morning if can't get to airport. Is this correct? If so, what is the likelihood that they would be willing to rebook the return leg the next day? Since it was ticketed via ANA, I wasn't sure how this would go down.
#3146
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,439
Has there been a change to the excursionist perk lately?
Before, I was of the understanding that any A-B C-C D-E itinerary would have C-C free of charge (each letter being a different zone), however I'm only noticing the excursionist perk applying to itineraries that are A-B C-C B-A. Furthermore, the excursionist leg is pricing in coach, but never in business either. Anyone with any experience?
Before, I was of the understanding that any A-B C-C D-E itinerary would have C-C free of charge (each letter being a different zone), however I'm only noticing the excursionist perk applying to itineraries that are A-B C-C B-A. Furthermore, the excursionist leg is pricing in coach, but never in business either. Anyone with any experience?
#3147
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, MLife Gold, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Caesars Diamond, Amex Plat
Posts: 5,943
I have a significant flight change (adding an overnight connection) on AC metal ticketed via UA award. There are UA flights that could accommodate us (sold out at our award level), but I am wondering about canceling the award altogether and rebooking from a different departing city. That said, how long does it take UA points to be redeposited? Alternatively, do you think I have any chance of a UA agent making the switch for me without a fee, given the flight change? I'm just trying to figure out all my options.
#3148
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,412
Has there been a change to the excursionist perk lately?
Before, I was of the understanding that any A-B C-C D-E itinerary would have C-C free of charge (each letter being a different zone), however I'm only noticing the excursionist perk applying to itineraries that are A-B C-C B-A. Furthermore, the excursionist leg is pricing in coach, but never in business either. Anyone with any experience?
Before, I was of the understanding that any A-B C-C D-E itinerary would have C-C free of charge (each letter being a different zone), however I'm only noticing the excursionist perk applying to itineraries that are A-B C-C B-A. Furthermore, the excursionist leg is pricing in coach, but never in business either. Anyone with any experience?
There have been intermittent reports of pricing problems with the Excursionist Perk. I don't know that anyone's found a fix besides calling.
I have a significant flight change (adding an overnight connection) on AC metal ticketed via UA award. There are UA flights that could accommodate us (sold out at our award level), but I am wondering about canceling the award altogether and rebooking from a different departing city. That said, how long does it take UA points to be redeposited? Alternatively, do you think I have any chance of a UA agent making the switch for me without a fee, given the flight change? I'm just trying to figure out all my options.
If you prefer to have them redeposited, it's usually instantaneous; when it's not, an agent should be able to push them through. You may want to prepare an excuse to explain why the UA flights they offer won't work.
I'd say there's a good chance that an agent will make the switch for you if it seems related -- e.g., flying on about the same dates within the same general part of the world. Anything more complicated and an agent might want to charge a change fee. You can always try it, though, and if they refuse to waive the fee, just ask for the miles to be redeposited.
#3149
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, MLife Gold, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Caesars Diamond, Amex Plat
Posts: 5,943
The Excursionist Perk has always required beginning and ending the trip in the same zone. A-B-C-C-D-E was never valid. However, A-B-C-C-D-A should still be valid.
There have been intermittent reports of pricing problems with the Excursionist Perk. I don't know that anyone's found a fix besides calling.
UA will open award space on its flights if you want that option.
If you prefer to have them redeposited, it's usually instantaneous; when it's not, an agent should be able to push them through. You may want to prepare an excuse to explain why the UA flights they offer won't work.
I'd say there's a good chance that an agent will make the switch for you if it seems related -- e.g., flying on about the same dates within the same general part of the world. Anything more complicated and an agent might want to charge a change fee. You can always try it, though, and if they refuse to waive the fee, just ask for the miles to be redeposited.
There have been intermittent reports of pricing problems with the Excursionist Perk. I don't know that anyone's found a fix besides calling.
UA will open award space on its flights if you want that option.
If you prefer to have them redeposited, it's usually instantaneous; when it's not, an agent should be able to push them through. You may want to prepare an excuse to explain why the UA flights they offer won't work.
I'd say there's a good chance that an agent will make the switch for you if it seems related -- e.g., flying on about the same dates within the same general part of the world. Anything more complicated and an agent might want to charge a change fee. You can always try it, though, and if they refuse to waive the fee, just ask for the miles to be redeposited.
#3150
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sun & beach destinations
Programs: UA-lifetime Platinum (2MM), IHG-Amb, HH-Diamond, Hertz-PC, Marriott-Gold, CX-AM
Posts: 1,427
Married segment thing starts to apply on award booking too?!
Tried to book an international award ticket with flights operated by parter airlines flying from A to C via B. When I first booked this award ticket few months back, award seats for A to B was not available, so I booked B to C first and it was successfully ticketed.
This morning I found out award seats for A to B were released by partner airlines and became available, so I called UA to try to add this segment to my existing booking. The UA agent told me that I couldn't just add a segment to my booking, award seats have to be available on both flights (A to B and B to C) in order to change the booking, and she said the 2 flights are married segments, she couldn't just add the flight A to B to my booking; however, B to C is no longer available because I took it few months ago and the partner airlines doesn't release more award seats. Please tell me what I'm supposed to do now. I hanged up and called again, and the other agent told me the same!! I never had this kind of problem before. UA is getting more insane!
This morning I found out award seats for A to B were released by partner airlines and became available, so I called UA to try to add this segment to my existing booking. The UA agent told me that I couldn't just add a segment to my booking, award seats have to be available on both flights (A to B and B to C) in order to change the booking, and she said the 2 flights are married segments, she couldn't just add the flight A to B to my booking; however, B to C is no longer available because I took it few months ago and the partner airlines doesn't release more award seats. Please tell me what I'm supposed to do now. I hanged up and called again, and the other agent told me the same!! I never had this kind of problem before. UA is getting more insane!
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