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Old Feb 21, 2017, 2:36 pm
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Current 77W Routes:
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19

Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly

Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
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Old Jan 28, 2017, 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Not sure ICN warrants a 77W either. It's been operated by both the 789 and the 772 from time to time.
Depends what market share you're after, and how competitive your product is. The competition runs 74H.

Originally Posted by ORDnHKG
UA had never officially said the retirement of the 747 are by the end of October, it is just the current schedules for those 744 routes run til end of October.
They previously ran through year end, and were moved up to October recently. Writing is on the wall.
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Old Jan 28, 2017, 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by mduell

They previously ran through year end, and were moved up to October recently. Writing is on the wall.
UA had only said Q4, never mentioned year end previously or October recently, October 28 and 29 is only about what are the last dates for those 744 routes operating, I can bet UA will have some domestic runs being it officially retired, it is just way too early for them to let us know the details.
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Old Jan 28, 2017, 9:01 pm
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Originally Posted by mduell
Depends what market share you're after, and how competitive your product is. The competition runs 74H.
You mean KE? OZ runs a 772.

One of the consistently cheaper TPACs out there in J due to competition between those two.
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Old Jan 28, 2017, 10:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
UA also flies the 744 SFO-LHR seasonally.
Given the premium market, I wouldn't be surprised to see a 77W on SFO-LHR.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 2:43 am
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Not a whole lot that is "premium" about a 2-cabin plane with a tight 60-seat J cabin...
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by kevanyalowitz
Not a whole lot that is "premium" about a 2-cabin plane with a tight 60-seat J cabin...
SFO-LHR....

Your choices are BA with first class that's not much roomier than Polaris for a much higher price, or biz class that's more tight than Polaris with many more than 60 seats.

VS...with fewer seats but with an almost 15 year old base that can't even go into flat mode without getting up from the seat.

As much as I like 747s seems like it's quite competitive for SFO-LHR.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by CALMSP
doing a proving run to NRT has nothing to do with the JV. the 787 also did a proving run there for the pacific and did AMS for the Atlantic. Its simply a test flight.
Sure. I was just speculating on where the 77Ws may go. NRT makes sense from the JV perspective.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
If one looks at the SFO 747 transpacific routes, most of them require the planes to overnight at destinations (with the exception of NRT). If 77Ws do go on to replace the 747 on those transpac routes, the utilization will be low for the newest planes in the fleet.

If it is one for one swap from 747 to 77W, PEK, NRT, PVG, ICN, HKG, TPE and FRA will pretty much use all 14 of them. I do note TPE and PVG may be downsized to 787/777. Based on my experience fly to PEK and NRT in the last five years, the 747s have been pretty full.
PVG will probably not get a 77W, because it went from 1x 747 to 2x 787, showing that if they fly 2x daily, they need smaller planes.
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Old Jan 30, 2017, 12:05 am
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I saw a picture of N2332U. Is that the first or second 777W that united is getting? From what I've found, there's N2331 and now N2332. N2333 is still with Boeing. Is there a place where this kind of stuff can be tracked?

Sorry if this is the wrong place for this!
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Old Jan 30, 2017, 1:05 am
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Originally Posted by eeflyer
I saw a picture of N2332U. Is that the first or second 777W that united is getting? From what I've found, there's N2331 and now N2332. N2333 is still with Boeing. Is there a place where this kind of stuff can be tracked?

Sorry if this is the wrong place for this!
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/
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Old Jan 30, 2017, 1:19 pm
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Wow that site is amazing, thanks! Do you happen to know who updates it/the sources?
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Old Jan 30, 2017, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by eeflyer
Wow that site is amazing, thanks! Do you happen to know who updates it/the sources?
See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...7-edition.html
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Old Feb 13, 2017, 11:50 am
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UA is adding a second frequency to the SFO-EWR runs for a couple weeks per TPG.
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Old Feb 13, 2017, 12:11 pm
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37
UA is adding a second frequency to the SFO-EWR runs for a couple weeks per TPG.
I see this beginning Feb. 26 . . . 8:30 a.m. SFO departure, 6:10 pm departure EWR. Much better timed than the initial flights.
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Old Feb 13, 2017, 7:07 pm
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Just saw The Points Guy's Instagram Story and he mentioned that EWR-TLV will get the 77W.
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