p.s. Operations Transitioning to EWR on October 25, 2015
Jul 10, 2015, 5:02 pm
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).The added implication is that it will now be virtually impossible to book awards from SFO or LAX connecting through EWR. Yet another MP downgrade.
Jul 10, 2015, 5:17 pm
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Jul 10, 2015, 9:13 pm
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p flight even when there were 15 flights/day scheduled.
Last edited by Xyzzy; Jul 10, 2015 at 10:33 pm Reason: Wrote standard vs. saver
Jul 10, 2015, 10:09 pm
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There is always standard availability.
Edited to add: I just looked at SFO-EWR October/November/December/January and there is actually decent saver J availability, generally one or two flights per day. Much better than ps SFO-JFK, where there is literally zero saver J showing for September or October.
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Jul 10, 2015, 10:34 pm
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n the EWR flights too.
Jul 10, 2015, 10:42 pm
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With the upgrade of PS to EWR, are there any other enhancements planned for EWR as well. Is the Air Train going to be more reliable, I'm not a fan of driving (Taxi, Uber, Black Car to the City) I actually like the rail.. Thanks and Safe Travels..
Jul 10, 2015, 10:58 pm
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ing to be asking the FAA for $40 million in PFC funds to study the matter.
Jul 12, 2015, 2:18 pm
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I wish UA the best of luck with this ex-EWR service in the very crowded Terminal C. Having a near monopoly at EWR on this city pair ( LAX/SFO) helps I suppose.
Anyone care to speculate what will happen to UA's lounge at JFK ( which practically hasn't changed since the days of United is Rising?)
If I had to wager, Qatar airways move in. QR is already getting pushback from AA re: expansion at Terminal 8. QR owns equity in BA, which has the lease on Terminal 7. QR and will probably make investments to make the gates A380 compliant, share these facilities with BA, which currently cannot fly they A380s to JFK. Boarding from the lounge? Its possible, given where the UA club is located.
The joke is on United for moving out.
Anyone care to speculate what will happen to UA's lounge at JFK ( which practically hasn't changed since the days of United is Rising?)
If I had to wager, Qatar airways move in. QR is already getting pushback from AA re: expansion at Terminal 8. QR owns equity in BA, which has the lease on Terminal 7. QR and will probably make investments to make the gates A380 compliant, share these facilities with BA, which currently cannot fly they A380s to JFK. Boarding from the lounge? Its possible, given where the UA club is located.
The joke is on United for moving out.
Jul 12, 2015, 2:43 pm
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I'm going to get slammed for saying this but United won't be transcon competition-free at Newark. JFK and Newark have a huge overlap in markets they serve and so all those transcon JFK flights will still provide competition to United.
While I prefer JFK, at this point I'm sticking with United for other reasons. But if they jack up fares or make other negative changes I'll status match with Delta and move on. I live on the Upper West Side so can fly out of either airport. That I (and many others) have a choice means United still has competition.
While I prefer JFK, at this point I'm sticking with United for other reasons. But if they jack up fares or make other negative changes I'll status match with Delta and move on. I live on the Upper West Side so can fly out of either airport. That I (and many others) have a choice means United still has competition.
Jul 12, 2015, 2:44 pm
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What generosity! A single flight/day out of ~15 (and on my review that one flight is frequently the 5PM flight that gets into Newark at an oh-so-convenient 1:20AM). Pyrrhic victory.
Jul 12, 2015, 2:45 pm
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Just paid $600 for MRY-LAX-EWR-SFO-MRY + 2 RPUs with R9 when I booked today for Feb. No complaints there.
Buying J straight out would have been like $1675.
Buying J straight out would have been like $1675.
Last edited by JVPhoto; Jul 12, 2015 at 2:47 pm Reason: listed GPU but were actually RPUs
Jul 12, 2015, 5:54 pm
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I wonder if any thought was given to keeping JFK adding service to the primary domestic hubs, ORD,IAH,and DEN. JFK has a great deal of International flights destinations not served by UA. More convenient to transfer at JFK then have to go to EWR or LGA. Also consider the size of the NYC metropolitan area seems like serving all three airports would be help maximize market share.
Jul 12, 2015, 7:41 pm
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I wonder if any thought was given to keeping JFK adding service to the primary domestic hubs, ORD,IAH,and DEN. JFK has a great deal of International flights destinations not served by UA. More convenient to transfer at JFK then have to go to EWR or LGA. Also consider the size of the NYC metropolitan area seems like serving all three airports would be help maximize market share.
Jul 12, 2015, 8:01 pm
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It was actually smart IMO. UA knows they can't compete against DL and thus they retract to serve their hub captives. Overall I agree that UA should be able to compete ... but they can't and instead of losing money every year they look at the economics and leave the high yield markets to airlines able to serve the needs.
I feel like most people think it's a normal market environment. It's definitely not, not by a long shot.
Jul 12, 2015, 9:43 pm
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Completely anecdotal, but sat next to a woman in F the other day flying EWR-SFO, and she's a Manhattanite... and quite excited about the p.s. move to EWR.
I think this was pretty much a no-brainer on UA's part. Close the underused station.
What I would like to see, however, is a "p.s. gate area" at EWR. With the frequency of flights, I think they really could designate 3-4 gates as p.s. only so ALL EWR-SFO and EWR-LAX flights go from there. They could up the amenities around those gates (nicer seats, more outlets, whatever?) to preserve the "special" p.s. feel without much cost at all.
Thoughts?
I think this was pretty much a no-brainer on UA's part. Close the underused station.
What I would like to see, however, is a "p.s. gate area" at EWR. With the frequency of flights, I think they really could designate 3-4 gates as p.s. only so ALL EWR-SFO and EWR-LAX flights go from there. They could up the amenities around those gates (nicer seats, more outlets, whatever?) to preserve the "special" p.s. feel without much cost at all.
Thoughts?
