Originally Posted by FlyWorld
(Post 24969270)
I think this may indeed be a new low, or a new height of incompetence, apathy, and customer hatred.
I wish there was a way to know the root cause of the mx issue. Was it due to deferred maintenance related to the $2 billion in cost cuts that are necessary to increase profitability margins to ensure that Jeff gets more than $12 million in compensation for 2015? http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...4238670646.jpg |
I can't understand why, since the pax were shuttled back to EWR, UA didn't send a few narrowbodies to pick them up.
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I am not a United defender but have checked in on these boards to add some balance to what I have felt is a biased discussion. I have seen improvements across the board over the past 18 months.
HOWEVER, it is incidents like this which scare the beejeezus out of me. I don't understand how United handled this situation. These passengers were basically prisoners. Had I been a passenger on this flight, I would have likely cancelled my business in London and tried to take a car/train/flight back into the U.S. But it doesn't seem like that was an option for anyone. This incident is screaming for United's leadership to step up and say something. |
The United Twitter response is just amazing. To shuttle everyone back to EWR then to LHR is the dumbest thing ever. Like another poster said, you couldn't send 2 narrowbody aircraft to pick up the stranded and fly them down to EWR or IAD?
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Originally Posted by RealFan
(Post 24969489)
I am not a United defender but have checked in on these boards to add some balance to what I have felt is a biased discussion. I have seen improvements across the board over the past 18 months.
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With respect to the pax overnighting in Gander, I'd be curious if UA had any sports charters working that night that could have diverted after their assignments?
Also, if this happened to your airline, wouldn't you pick up the phone and start calling Air Canada, Swift, Miami Air, even Delta--anyone for an aircraft and crew to rescue your stranded pax? Heck even an ERJ to shuttle pax to Halifax? UA's planning despite all their lip service to the contrary is seemingly non-existent. |
Mechanical issues happen, and better safe than sorry. That being said, the way United handled it was appalling. Even if they went ahead with sending the replacement 763, they could've flown directly from Goose Bay to London. The fact that it took them that long (with another mechanical delay none the less) just to shuttle them back down to EWR is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by RealFan
(Post 24969489)
I am not a United defender but have checked in on these boards to add some balance to what I have felt is a biased discussion. I have seen improvements across the board over the past 18 months.
HOWEVER, it is incidents like this which scare the beejeezus out of me. I don't understand how United handled this situation. These passengers were basically prisoners. Had I been a passenger on this flight, I would have likely cancelled my business in London and tried to take a car/train/flight back into the U.S. But it doesn't seem like that was an option for anyone. This incident is screaming for United's leadership to step up and say something. 1. How United handled this flight and cancellation is beyond defending. It should scare the bejessus out of everyone. 2. Look at the number of cancellations due to mechanical problems just over the past few days. That too should scare people, and that too demands an explanation. |
Originally Posted by RealFan
(Post 24969489)
I don't understand how United handled this situation. These passengers were basically prisoners... This incident is screaming for United's leadership to step up and say something.
But happily this outrage has burst into mainstream media and helps make UA synonymous with incompetence and brutal customer relations in the minds of the general public... which in the long run will dislodge this terrible management and lead to positive change. Got to touch bottom first though. I just hope nothing worse happens. |
What scares me the most about this Goose Island dealio isn't having to sleep in barracks, the continuing delays, the failure to go directly to LHR. It's the prospect--and I feel like I don't yet have enough information to know what the exact situation was--that the passengers were literally prisoners on this army base. If one of the passengers decided to hike their way into the town, would they have been forcibly detained? This, more than anything else, is what really scares me.
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Originally Posted by physioprof
(Post 24969735)
What scares me the most about this Goose Island dealio isn't having to sleep in barracks, the continuing delays, the failure to go directly to LHR. It's the prospect--and I feel like I don't yet have enough information to know what the exact situation was--that the passengers were literally prisoners on this army base. If one of the passengers decided to hike their way into the town, would they have been forcibly detained? This, more than anything else, is what really scares me.
I'd be curious if someone needed medical attention what would the response have been? Could one say they don't feel well, and get transport into town? Or would they be taken to an RCAF medical facility on the base? |
I am reminded of another incident last year when two UA flights to SYD were diverted and pax were stranded on the tarmac.
United Airlines passengers stranded in Brisbane and Canberra after Sydney runway closure (SMH-Dec 12, 2014) You would think, after the incident above, that UA would draft up contingency plans to help pax during diversions to a list of possible airports that it doesn't serve. And it's not like Goose Bay is an obscure place--it is one of the more famous and likeliest airports for diversions. For UA to act as cluelessly as it has shows that it simply doesn't have customer service high on its list of priorities. Pathetic. |
United's Name is Mud on Two Continents
Flight 958 debacle trending hard on both sides of the Atlantic.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/7...ne-forced-land http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2257921 http://www.travelpulse.com/news/impa...-barracks.html http://www.wsj.com/articles/united-a...cks-1434304084 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...engers-5881628 http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015/...4611434313854/ Editors are playing up the angle of the flight crew securing comfy hotel rooms for themselves while pax abandoned to cold barracks. |
Originally Posted by BearX220
(Post 24969789)
Editors are playing up the angle of the flight crew securing comfy hotel rooms for themselves while pax abandoned to cold barracks.
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Originally Posted by BearX220
(Post 24969789)
Flight 958 debacle trending hard on both sides of the Atlantic.
Editors are playing up the angle of the flight crew securing comfy hotel rooms for themselves while pax abandoned to cold barracks. As I was reading this thread in my hotel room in NYC, the local ABC station featured a story on this. Interview of pax, photos of "sleeping" arrangements, and a nice map of the flight path to Goose Bay. Not pretty. |
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