Why Are GPU Required for GUM-HNL Flights? {now 20 PlusPoints}
#31
Join Date: Jan 2003
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This is very interesting. I'm going to be booking for a Guam trip soon so I'll route through HNL to check this out. I feel there seems to be an error because you should have been able to use the RPU all the way to HKG since GUM-HKG is CPU and RPU eligible.
However, if UA is allowing RPUs from GUM-HNL that would be good since the service has been significantly downgraded.
However, if UA is allowing RPUs from GUM-HNL that would be good since the service has been significantly downgraded.
#32
Join Date: Nov 2008
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I'll report back once I book the flight....
#33
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: IAH
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I know, and I do not think I will call this in. I would rather have HNL-GUM in J confirmed and take my chances with CPU for GUM-HKG segment. I took HNL-GUM in Y last year and it was horrid even after few cocktails.
#34
Join Date: Feb 2008
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The meaningful difference between an international and domestic flight is the presence or absence of international airlines competing on the route.
#35
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: District of Columbia
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If you play the call back game, I was able a year or so ago to get upgraded YYZ-IAD-HNL-GUM on a one-way reservation to MNL with only using a CPU.
I had instantly confirmed at booking the YYZ-IAD and IAD-HNL legs... and called back four or five times and finally spoke to an agent to confirmed the upgrade using an RPU for me and my travel buddy without having to 'buy-up' to the W fare. We were flying on a one-way ticket to MNL for approx. $500 USD from YYZ.
Sometimes you get lucky.
I had instantly confirmed at booking the YYZ-IAD and IAD-HNL legs... and called back four or five times and finally spoke to an agent to confirmed the upgrade using an RPU for me and my travel buddy without having to 'buy-up' to the W fare. We were flying on a one-way ticket to MNL for approx. $500 USD from YYZ.
Sometimes you get lucky.
#36
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Tri Valley Area Northern CA
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 579
This is very interesting. I'm going to be booking for a Guam trip soon so I'll route through HNL to check this out. I feel there seems to be an error because you should have been able to use the RPU all the way to HKG since GUM-HKG is CPU and RPU eligible.
However, if UA is allowing RPUs from GUM-HNL that would be good since the service has been significantly downgraded.
However, if UA is allowing RPUs from GUM-HNL that would be good since the service has been significantly downgraded.
When I went to "purchase" the upgrade using 2 RPU's, I received an "error". When I log back in, I could not see if I was upgrade (i.e. would not display seat assignments), but I did notice that 2 RPU's were taken from my account.
Tonight I just checked and I saw that I was indeed upgraded to BusinessFirst on the HNL/GUM flight and the return GUM/HNL flight.
I was also upgraded on the LAX/HNL outbound, but not on the return (even though there was R availability). I believe the system was confused (international date line) with the GUM/HNL segment. It shows me leaving on a Tuesday at 6:35 am from Guam and arriving in HNL at 5:50 pm (Tuesday). Then I am taking a flight at 9 pm (Monday) to get back to the mainland. I am wondering if I should call this in. I'm concerned that the agent will realize that I shouldn't be upgraded on the HNL/GUM segments and rescind those segments. It does show I'm eligible for CPU on the HNL flight and I'll probably take my chances (I've been CPU upgraded on almost all my Hawaii flights).
So, it appears that the "Glitch" is still available.
Last edited by PBAudit; Jul 17, 2015 at 9:16 am Reason: clarity
#37
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Washington, DC
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New data point - just able to use a RPU on the HNL-GUM segment. Initially it came up as available for an instant upgrade BUT it didn't process. Went back and was able to use a RPU and save the GPU for a future flight.
#38
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: AS MVP, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 803
RPU question regarding GUM-HNL (or reverse)
Last time a friend of mine bought a last minute ticket on UA for HNL-GUM-HKG on W class. The HNL-GUM leg is UA201. He asked if I can upgrade him using my GPU, so I tried and the united site gave me an option to upgrade using:
1. miles
2. gpu
3. rpu
I am surprised to see the option of RPU is given. I tried and it succeeded.
Now I am going to take the same route as well, and after some research reading I found that the HNL-GUM route is actually ineligible for RPU. So why does UA give me the option at that time? If I book the ticket with UA, can I use RPU as well? Does it have anything to do with the fare class?
1. miles
2. gpu
3. rpu
I am surprised to see the option of RPU is given. I tried and it succeeded.
Now I am going to take the same route as well, and after some research reading I found that the HNL-GUM route is actually ineligible for RPU. So why does UA give me the option at that time? If I book the ticket with UA, can I use RPU as well? Does it have anything to do with the fare class?
#41
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ORF, RIC
Programs: UA LT 1K, 3 MM; Marriott Titanium; IHG Platinum
Posts: 6,958
Last time a friend of mine bought a last minute ticket on UA for HNL-GUM-HKG on W class. The HNL-GUM leg is UA201. He asked if I can upgrade him using my GPU, so I tried and the united site gave me an option to upgrade using:
1. miles
2. gpu
3. rpu
I am surprised to see the option of RPU is given. I tried and it succeeded.
Now I am going to take the same route as well, and after some research reading I found that the HNL-GUM route is actually ineligible for RPU. So why does UA give me the option at that time? If I book the ticket with UA, can I use RPU as well? Does it have anything to do with the fare class?
1. miles
2. gpu
3. rpu
I am surprised to see the option of RPU is given. I tried and it succeeded.
Now I am going to take the same route as well, and after some research reading I found that the HNL-GUM route is actually ineligible for RPU. So why does UA give me the option at that time? If I book the ticket with UA, can I use RPU as well? Does it have anything to do with the fare class?
#42
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Washington, DC
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Posts: 2,529
So it seems RPUs can be used now so I wonder why they haven't updated the webpage overall? A "secret" benefit or, being more cynical, maybe a system glitch?
#45
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ORF, RIC
Programs: UA LT 1K, 3 MM; Marriott Titanium; IHG Platinum
Posts: 6,958
It is a new policy, I guess :)
I do not think that it is a glitch. If you check the flight status (both upgrade standby list and seat map) of recent UA 200 flights, there is a long list (and many upgraded) pax and no empty seat in Business. I would guess further that this route becomes CPU eligible, as HNL-ORD. On my flight on Oct. 5, the Business cabin was full, too, but I used a RPU for upgrade. So, I cannot confirm whether or not this route becomes CPU eligible. Happy travels.