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[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight
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[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight
Related thread - Understanding the United Upgrade List Comprehensively
[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight {Archive}
#7966
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Yes. 2 pax will be skipped when PZ1 is available. Booking separate reservations increases the chance of UG clearing with the risk that only 1 may ultimately clear.
#7967
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Bottom line...yes, you want to use separate reservations if you are fine with just one possibly being upgraded. If you're both on the same reservation and the flight is only PZ=1 then you will both be skipped over.
-RM
-RM
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#7968
Join Date: Jul 2021
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Has anyone had EWR-DXB clear? I'm currently in PY, trying to get a sense for how hard this route is.
#7969
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For those who are relatively new to looking for upgrades and saver awards available at booking, this it what a good flight looks like. Unfortunately, one does not usually see something like this when one usually wants to book
Even a non-status person could get a mileage upgrade on this flight. This is for Thursday. Of course, the numbers were pretty much zero for the buckets of interest a couple of days ago.
Even a non-status person could get a mileage upgrade on this flight. This is for Thursday. Of course, the numbers were pretty much zero for the buckets of interest a couple of days ago.
#7970
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 100
I have not been in the upgrade game for a while on international flights. Therefore, I am looking for some pointers on what fare to book to maximize chances to end up in Polaris. I am 1K
I am planning to book a multi leg flight to (ZRH) and form (Rome) Europe to ORD.
1.) Does YBM instant upgrades apply to Europe flights?
2.) If I request point upgrade after booking will this decrease or increase upgrade chances?
3.) What are my upgrade chances in M?
4.) I am assuming when when we talk upgrades it is always meant to Polaris and not that new premium economy?
Currently I ma looking at a M fare that is higher than premium economy. Will I get a default seat in the premium economy. Currently, I can only select more or less standard eco seats when tryign to purchase.
I am planning to book a multi leg flight to (ZRH) and form (Rome) Europe to ORD.
1.) Does YBM instant upgrades apply to Europe flights?
2.) If I request point upgrade after booking will this decrease or increase upgrade chances?
3.) What are my upgrade chances in M?
4.) I am assuming when when we talk upgrades it is always meant to Polaris and not that new premium economy?
Currently I ma looking at a M fare that is higher than premium economy. Will I get a default seat in the premium economy. Currently, I can only select more or less standard eco seats when tryign to purchase.
Last edited by nikleb; Sep 6, 2023 at 7:49 pm
#7971
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I have not been in the upgrade game for a while on international flights. Therefore, I am looking for some pointers. I am 1K
I am planning to book a multi leg flight to (ZRH) and form (Rome) Europe to ORD.
1.) Does YBM instant upgrades apply to Europe flights?
2.) If I request point upgrade after booking will this decrease or increase upgrade chances?
3.) What are my upgrade chances in M?
4.) I am assuming when when we talk upgrades it is always meant to Polaris and not that new premium economy?
Currently I ma looking at a M fare that is higher than premium economy. Will I get a default seat in the premium economy. Currently, I can only select more or less standard eco seats when tryign to purchase.
I am planning to book a multi leg flight to (ZRH) and form (Rome) Europe to ORD.
1.) Does YBM instant upgrades apply to Europe flights?
2.) If I request point upgrade after booking will this decrease or increase upgrade chances?
3.) What are my upgrade chances in M?
4.) I am assuming when when we talk upgrades it is always meant to Polaris and not that new premium economy?
Currently I ma looking at a M fare that is higher than premium economy. Will I get a default seat in the premium economy. Currently, I can only select more or less standard eco seats when tryign to purchase.
2. Irrelevant since instant upgrades don't apply. You must use some form of 'currency' to request an upgrade (PlusPoints or miles)
3. Can't help with that unless you give us dates and flights. ZRH is generally an easy upgrade. Rome is generally not. But, again, depends on dates (day of week, etc.)
4. You can upgrade separately to PremPlus or Polaris. You can request both and hope for the best. Upgrades discussed in this thread deal with both.
Why would you book an M fare if it costs more than PremPlus? Does your corporate travel policy dictate "lowest economy fare"? Purchasing PremPlus already greatly increases your chances of an upgrade over any coach fare.
-RM
#7972
Join Date: Dec 2011
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1. No. Domestic CPU routes only (so no SFO/LAX-EWR)
Why would you book an M fare if it costs more than PremPlus? Does your corporate travel policy dictate "lowest economy fare"? Purchasing PremPlus already greatly increases your chances of an upgrade over any coach fare.
-RM
Why would you book an M fare if it costs more than PremPlus? Does your corporate travel policy dictate "lowest economy fare"? Purchasing PremPlus already greatly increases your chances of an upgrade over any coach fare.
-RM
Oct 19th: ZRH-ORD UA direct
Nov 5th: Rome - ORD (through IAD)
#7973
Join Date: Oct 2006
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3 days out, 5th on waitlist:
J9 C9 D9 Z9 P7 O4 A4 R4 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9
United says booked to 52/60 in J, decent chance here?
J9 C9 D9 Z9 P7 O4 A4 R4 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9
United says booked to 52/60 in J, decent chance here?
Last edited by RedPanda5; Sep 6, 2023 at 8:51 pm
#7974
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Washington, DC
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yes - PremPlus fares are all higher in priority for upgrades to Polaris than any economy fare, regardless of status other than GS. As 1K with P+ ticket you should be high on upgrade list if you apply plus points or miles.
#7975
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ORD-ZRH is currently J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 O8 A6 R3 but PN0 and PZ0 meaning no immediately confirmable upgrade. You will have to waitlist. But right now it looks very good for a 1K in PremPlus.
FCO-IAD is currently J9 C9 D7 Z4 P1 O5 A0 R0. Also PN0 and PZ0. As mentioned above, this is going to be the much harder flight to upgrade. Chances are not great right now but not 0%.
The PremPlus fare on this itinerary is likely pretty high given O5 R0 on the return leg. But married logic connecting IAD-xxx may allow at least an A fare for sale.
-RM
#7977
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As YBM-ups don’t work on long-haul int’l, buying an M fare makes zero sense for the reason you pointed out. Buying the cheaper PremEconomy fare would actually put you ahead of any M fare buyer on the upgrade waitlist outside of a GS. You’d have to apply miles or Plus Points to request the upgrade.
#7978
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#7979
Join Date: Jul 2021
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Currently booked into R as a 1K. Pretty slim pickings on EWR-DXB 09/23. If flexible on dates, would you change dates to a flight that's J9 JN9 C9 D5 Z1 ZN1 P0 PN0 PZ0 instead?
#7980
Join Date: Dec 2011
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btw. is there a difference in me (1k) booking or my spouse (GS) on separate itineraries?