goalie

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goalie
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UA-NYC

As a GS, I'm surprised you're so wrong on this - while DL didn't have an uber-tier like UA did (to reward high spenders), UA DID have GS. And as a GS / premium cabin buyer, you DID have differentiated perks (different buckets to get UGs from, early boarding, now M-B service, etc.) & received more RDMs (via COS bonii).

Would have been very easy for UA to just up the RDMs earned from paid cabins (and maybe discount some of the cheapest fares). Instead they blew up the system.

Superguy

Problem is they keep cutting the benefits for those that they want to reward the most. And also jacked up the redemption rates for *A premium cabins. So yes, you may be getting more miles for your dollar, but it's also costing you nearly double or more miles for that same award.

Not exactly a win.

You clearly don't understand FT then. Yes people talk about getting the most for as little as possible, but it's ignorant to say we're all cheap. Many people are HVFs too who just want some semblance of the perks they used to get. Hell, you don't even get a first class experience on UA anymore even if you pay for it.

People saw it coming on UA because DL did it first. Only problem with UA's implementation is that it keeps cutting everything while DL is at least improving their onboard offerings. DL may be a bit stingier, but if you get better entertainment, comfort and food on board, people are more willing to put up with it. UA, on the other hand, just keeps demanding more while offering less and less every year. You can't even argue that it's a reward program because they don't see it that way. They see it as something they HAVE to do, and would gladly get rid of it if they could get away with it. Of course, they can't do that overnight, so it's dying a slow death.

In the meantime, keep enjoying what perks you get while flying on OPM. It's always easy to cheer when it doesn't cost much personally.

Superguy

Funny this is I'm one that would win on the vast majority of my travel. On my midcons, I'd be pulling in close to 10k miles around trip instead of 2-3k since I'm flying on higher bucket refundable fares. That doesn't mean I think it's a good change.[/quote]

I flew UA as it had a great network and pretty good service for a domestic. Unfortunately, with cuts in the product, and then to MP, the value proposition made it clear it wasn't worth it to me anymore to be loyal. So I went elsewhere.

I still look at it every year. I was debating whether or not to stick with AA/US because I'm not happy they stuck more with the AA style program. But after looking at it, it's still the best deal out there IMO from what's left.

You're right that you can't predict the future - that's the main reason I get a bit miffed when everyone says "AA is going to do X because UA/DL did it. They may or may not. However, I can take educated guesses on the direction they seem to be taking to make and likely plan accordingly. UA me that expectation again this year.

As long as there are CPUs, the long lists aren't going to change. Maybe on PS.

CO_Nonrev_elite

AA never joined DL/UA on the complimentary upgrade system, that's been in place for years, so nothing is guaranteed. Them going to a revenue based system may or may not happen.

mduell

New thread, same tired old line, still no evidence.

FlyingNut724

that worked

TENYKS

will this really cause people with low or no status to pick Star Alliance partner
airlines as opposed United Airlines on the same routes? (either TPAC or TATL)