Some Observations of AA vs UA by a UA flyer(s)
#46
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The thing I miss the most from UA since switching over to AA is the SDC policy. *A is also leaps and bounds above OW.
Otherwise AA IMO is superior in pretty much every other category (I don't do much international travel so the lack of 100% international fully lie-flat seats in J doesn't really impact me)
Otherwise AA IMO is superior in pretty much every other category (I don't do much international travel so the lack of 100% international fully lie-flat seats in J doesn't really impact me)
#47
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I gave up on UA and went with AA about two years ago. Thus far, my experience has been:
AA:
ACs are good, though not something I would pay for if they did not come with my CC.
Better service within the continental US, to the Caribbean, and to South America.
IRROPS are rare, and handled with courtesy.
Decent to good menus in F/J (considering it's airplane food).
Five Star Service at JFK departures works as advertised.
J seats on the 757 international configuration to SJU are fantastic.
More points accumulation as mid-tier Aadvantage member.
United:
Better coverage to Europe and Asia.
Star Alliance is much better by far (we still fly SQ and even LH to get to FRA; trying to do this via OW is complicated and/or expensive).
Better coverage to Canada (via AC).
AA:
ACs are good, though not something I would pay for if they did not come with my CC.
Better service within the continental US, to the Caribbean, and to South America.
IRROPS are rare, and handled with courtesy.
Decent to good menus in F/J (considering it's airplane food).
Five Star Service at JFK departures works as advertised.
J seats on the 757 international configuration to SJU are fantastic.
More points accumulation as mid-tier Aadvantage member.
United:
Better coverage to Europe and Asia.
Star Alliance is much better by far (we still fly SQ and even LH to get to FRA; trying to do this via OW is complicated and/or expensive).
Better coverage to Canada (via AC).
#48
Join Date: Jul 2008
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"Snack basket" is different from "snack box" in FT lingo. UA does pass around the snack basket on SFO-LAS (although how many times exactly is very dependent on the crew IME). The FT'er I responded to mentioned he got pretzels, so I just wanted to make sure the context was understood.
#49
Join Date: Mar 2010
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"Snack basket" is different from "snack box" in FT lingo. UA does pass around the snack basket on SFO-LAS (although how many times exactly is very dependent on the crew IME). The FT'er I responded to mentioned he got pretzels, so I just wanted to make sure the context was understood.
Yes, I know that. I misread the OPs post, missing the part where he got pretzels. Regardless, UA still more than what the OP got on AA
#50
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#52
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#53
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Didn't know they flew to Alberta. My flights have always been over to the B.C. side. Learn something new here every day.
#54
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: LAX
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I always like reading threads like this. I went from DL to AA to UA, consistently at the 50k elite level.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the EQM/EQP split over at AA. For people who fly a mix of deep discount economy and the occasional premium J/F, AA is terrible from a status earning perspective. For all the shortcomings on UA, the reason I'm very happy with my move so far:
- SDC that I have had great experience with so far
- Miles I can actually use to/from Europe (without insance BA "surcharges")
- Upgrades based on fare code, not time of request (this one is specific to me because 80% of my travel is booked less than 7 days out)
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the EQM/EQP split over at AA. For people who fly a mix of deep discount economy and the occasional premium J/F, AA is terrible from a status earning perspective. For all the shortcomings on UA, the reason I'm very happy with my move so far:
- SDC that I have had great experience with so far
- Miles I can actually use to/from Europe (without insance BA "surcharges")
- Upgrades based on fare code, not time of request (this one is specific to me because 80% of my travel is booked less than 7 days out)
#56
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I still prefer UA policy of operating metal rules. Much easier to find such flights and often cheaper. I don't need to worry about finding codeshare flights. The cheaper of the two will still give the same amount of miles.
#58
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Chicago
Programs: AA EXP, UA former 1K (1.9MM and gone), Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Diamond, SPG Plat
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UA has better seats in F & J on most if not all TPAC/TATL. No MCE and no lie flat on AA except the 777-300ER routes. Real power on UA long haul fleet, not the ancient cigarette lighter type power.
I hear on the AA Transcon premium services flights wine selection is abysmal and so is food. I think i head someone call them "TV dinners". Guess ill find out Saturday when i try out the A321.
I hear on the AA Transcon premium services flights wine selection is abysmal and so is food. I think i head someone call them "TV dinners". Guess ill find out Saturday when i try out the A321.
#59
Join Date: Jun 2008
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I enjoy AA's policy, but the codeshares are sometimes more expensive than booking on the other carrier's flight number.
Noticed someone said UA earns miles for shopping and cars. Pretty sure both UA and AA use the same exact shopping vendor to earn miles, and AA earns plenty miles on rental cars/hotels too.
the lack of a free SDC policy for elites annoys me, hopefully they bring over the US policy of waived SDC fees for elites. However, all 4 times ive stand byed for SDC for free, ive cleared everytime with ease.
#60
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I'm not entirely sure about that... with AA's recent devaluation of award levels and their greater restricting of award inventory, we may get a pass on partner award levels for some time. I believe (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong) that the vast majority of redemptions in the U.S. are on own carrier's metal. This seems to be especially true at AA, where only a few oneworld partner awards are visible on AA.com. One of these is BA (high fuel surcharges) and another is Qantas (super stingy). CX, JL, MH, EY, FJ, TN, and a bunch of other partners are not available unless you call in and you know what to ask for. These people are a pretty small percentage of those with an AAdvantage account (and many of them probably have an FT account ).