[confirmed] UA to strictly enforce carry-on size starting 1-Mar-2014
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This isn't a metric vs imperial argument. It's that the Europeans allow larger sized carry-ons. For comparison the UA sizing is (22 cm x 35 cm x 56 cm). As one who has purchased the European sized carry-on suitcases and used it across the globe, I'd like to continue to be able to use them as carry-on. They clearly fit and aren't a danger to anyone.
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If they're going to enforce the rules, they should go to the European size rules (55 cm x 40 cm x 23 cm or 57 cm x 54 cm x 15 cm) and fix their inability to deliver checked baggage on time and intact. Certainly leave out the silly European weight rules though (8kg). Even their big corporate clients are going to have issues when their road warriors who used to be able to pack for a week with a single "carry-on" sized suitcase now has to check their bag, lose it for a few days, and possibly have it returned with damage.
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I wouldn't be surprised. Flying through VIE where the airport (not the airline) checks size and weight before going through security is such a pain.
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Frontier dubles its fee if a bag is checked at the gate.
I think this kind of policy is going to make boarding a UA flight an even longer and more unpleasant experience than it is currently.
I think this kind of policy is going to make boarding a UA flight an even longer and more unpleasant experience than it is currently.
I have flown Frontier as recently as Friday (MSN-DCA) and the boarding process is quite efficient - nothing like the horror of boarding a United flight. Well before actual boarding begins, you put your carry-on bag in the sizer and if it fits, the GA rubber stamps your BP (F9 does not have those pesky electronic BPs that don't work on the first try half the time).
The only people who are truly inconvenienced are the scofflaws who ignore the size rules or fail to pay the fee in advance.
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You better measure your carry-on that is touted as "acceptable". I just measured my "acceptable" carry-on and it is 22.25" x 14.25" x 11"
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Of course, it means pulling my jacket and reading material out of the outside pocket for boarding to make sure it isn't 1/2" too thick for the sizer.
Progress.
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This isn't a metric vs imperial argument. It's that the Europeans allow larger sized carry-ons. For comparison the UA sizing is (22 cm x 35 cm x 56 cm). As one who has purchased the European sized carry-on suitcases and used it across the globe, I'd like to continue to be able to use them as carry-on. They clearly fit and aren't a danger to anyone.
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Certainly leave out the silly European weight rules though (8kg). Even their big corporate clients are going to have issues when their road warriors who used to be able to pack for a week with a single "carry-on" sized suitcase now has to check their bag, lose it for a few days, and possibly have it returned with damage.
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And yes, I am sure UA will complain about the handle sticking out.
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I manage for 1-2 months with a single carry-on weighing 7kg (plus a personal item). Granted, I don't have to wear a suit when I travel, although I do need to look presentable. You might be surprised how much 7-8kg can be (particularly if you put your heavier items in your personal item).
The 8kg limit, as alluded to above. Also, given that apparently most carry on sized suitcases don't actually meet the definition as posted on the UA website, this is even more key.
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You're absolutely right. The key is the personal item - I've been able to travel with just one suitcase with two suits and a laptop without the 8kg limit, but the laptop usually puts me over. Move that to a second smaller bag, and I'm fine for both.
The 8kg limit, as alluded to above. Also, given that apparently most carry on sized suitcases don't actually meet the definition as posted on the UA website, this is even more key.
The 8kg limit, as alluded to above. Also, given that apparently most carry on sized suitcases don't actually meet the definition as posted on the UA website, this is even more key.
It is too bad that so many briefcases don't fit upright in the overheads. So many people don't want to put them under their seats (front cabin elites, I'm talking to you!), but they can be a really inefficient use of space if they lay down. No one wants another briefcase on top of theirs.
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They may have removed it from the luggage page, but it's still in the Contract of Carriage.
Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance - UA will accept one piece of Carry-on Baggage free of charge, which, for purposes of this Rule, is referred to as the “Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance”, and one personal item such as a shoulder bag, backpack, briefcase, laptop bag or similar item. Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 45 inches (114 cm) (height + width + depth), which includes its wheels and handles, and may not be longer than 22 inches in any single dimension. Personal items must not exceed 36 linear inches, which includes any wheels and handles, and may not be longer than 17 inches in any single dimension.
Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance - UA will accept one piece of Carry-on Baggage free of charge, which, for purposes of this Rule, is referred to as the “Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance”, and one personal item such as a shoulder bag, backpack, briefcase, laptop bag or similar item. Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 45 inches (114 cm) (height + width + depth), which includes its wheels and handles, and may not be longer than 22 inches in any single dimension. Personal items must not exceed 36 linear inches, which includes any wheels and handles, and may not be longer than 17 inches in any single dimension.
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Why? UA is a USA airline and the USA does not use metric measurements. And you just know, if they did adopt the metric measurements they would also adopt the metric weights.
And it is not about losing the bags (though some will say it is). They just don't want to wait for their checked bag. They just use the excuse the airline will lose it.
And it is not about losing the bags (though some will say it is). They just don't want to wait for their checked bag. They just use the excuse the airline will lose it.
It's also about not being able to secure the bag and ensure a reasonable chance that it will arrive with its contents untouched.
UA could learn from AS. I stopped flying AS for years after a 2+ hour wait (and mine was short) for a bag. I have started occasionally flying them again, now that they guarantee 20-minute delivery or immediate $ voucher - for all pax, not just elites.