Originally Posted by jpsj
(Post 23988235)
Tomorrow is my last UA flight--heading to AA for 2015---1.1 million miles and making the change. I figure that if AA becomes like UA then I haven't lost much and certainly with where UA is heading in 2015, might as well get a little bit more with AA!
But it is bittersweet---I enjoy the UC folks in PHL--they are a good lot and I certainly have my favorite places to pass a layover in ORD, DEN, SFO and IAH. I really want the upgrades and UA just isn't cutting it for me--later 2014 was poor and then the whole wifi situation is a disaster. I had 4 cross country planes with either no wifi or inop wifi. That is a lot of time and that is something that I value! Anyhow, you all have heard it before, I am just a bit sentimental as UA is alike an old shoe. I guess I need to break in a new pair now with AA! |
Originally Posted by LaserSailor
(Post 23990899)
I think this is missed by a lot of people here. There are a lot more HVF who never frequent these pages, for whom this is the whole thing.
UA (and the others) are being run for these flyers, not for FT. And even out of the FT GS population, quite a few have admitted very specific and limited personal circumstances that led them to choose UA over OALs (think: hub captive, etc.).
Originally Posted by LaserSailor
(Post 23990899)
Im not going to lose a half business day connecting through some city for a better glass of champagne or even a better price, for that matter.
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Originally Posted by milepig
(Post 23988252)
Don't tell us, write smi/j.
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I'm moving to Delta. I fly to SEA-Shanghai 4-5 times a year. Delta gives me nonstop. First try was in November in EC and it was much more comfortable than UAs E+. So we'll see.
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Originally Posted by LaserSailor
(Post 23990899)
I think this is missed by a lot of people here. There are a lot more HVF who never frequent these pages, for whom this is the whole thing.
UA (and the others) are being run for these flyers, not for FT. Im not going to lose a half business day connecting through some city for a better glass of champagne or even a better price, for that matter. |
Originally Posted by jpsj
(Post 23988235)
Tomorrow is my last UA flight--heading to AA for 2015---1.1 million miles and making the change. I figure that if AA becomes like UA then I haven't lost much and certainly with where UA is heading in 2015, might as well get a little bit more with AA!
But it is bittersweet---I enjoy the UC folks in PHL--they are a good lot and I certainly have my favorite places to pass a layover in ORD, DEN, SFO and IAH. I really want the upgrades and UA just isn't cutting it for me--later 2014 was poor and then the whole wifi situation is a disaster. I had 4 cross country planes with either no wifi or inop wifi. That is a lot of time and that is something that I value! Anyhow, you all have heard it before, I am just a bit sentimental as UA is alike an old shoe. I guess I need to break in a new pair now with AA! But I must agree if you are a domestic flyer, UA CPU rate is horrible even for 1K. UA's handling of irregular op. is also bad compared to AA/DL. |
More tales from the other side of the fence where the grass is greener...
Flew to Bangkok last week in Premium Economy. Or not. The morning of, I tweaked my back really bad. By that afternoon, I was hurtin'. Finally get some ibus but I'm still hobbling badly when we go to check in. That's okay...I have a bag full of aspirin and some sleeping pills and I at least know I can get a good nights sleep in the PE seat. We do the bag drop, the girl's a kilo over but our guy Alan doesn't say a word. At the end as he is printing our boarding passes, she says "Hey, any chance we could get a free upgrade to business class?" Only joking, of course, we know how stingy Cathay is. Without batting an eye, Alan hands us our passports back and says, "Oh, I already did." Tucked in both our passports are boarding cards for the whole ride in J. He looked at me and said "we needed your seats, and it looks like you needed this." Talk about one sweet 12-hour block of sleep. A couple days ago I'm checking email and I get a message about my return flight. It says "Sorry, but due to an operational change the Bangkok to Hong Kong flight you are scheduled to fly no longer has premium economy. Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience. As a courtesy, please accept a complimentary upgrade to business class for this leg. Or, you can call us or visit our website to change your booking free of charge." Seriously? Airlines still do this kind of s&$#? Who knew? LOVE me some Cathay. I'm sure it won't always be rainbows and unicorns, but man, the relationship is getting off to a good start. I already want to start giving them obscene amounts of money to guarantee myself a lie-flat seat. In the homeland, Alaska is treating me wonderfully for West Coast ops. I have only missed 1 upgrade and when I did, I got to catch the vapors of the F pax from Row 6 anyway. It also seems like American isn't ready to poop on fliers out of the gate post-merger...haven't flown them since the changeover but might give them a shot this summer if I don't hear too much howling. I'm almost a year United-free. Why, why, why in the world did I wait this long to quit Air Smisek? I guess it's no matter...better late than never. To those who take any little crumb United dishes out these days for the privilege of flying in Hades...please, keep at it. I used to say that people should abandon them in droves but now I feel the reverse is true...please, stay! It keeps them around, and keeps you out of my PE or J seat. Besides, everybody should fly with who makes them happy. I know I am! |
Originally Posted by luckypierre
(Post 23993057)
Is there hidden meaning in this suggestion? One of the hallmarks of the current United management is NOT listening to their customers...
Originally Posted by Bear4Asian
(Post 23993632)
I moving to Delta. I fly to SEA-Shanghai 4-5 times a year. Delta gives me nonstop.
Originally Posted by pdx1M
(Post 23993675)
If you are not at a hub it is quite likely that you will lose no time one way or the other. Once you need to connect it is surprising how little difference there is schedule-wise across the airline and their alliances.
Originally Posted by FiveMileFinal
(Post 23993856)
More tales from the other side of the fence where the grass is greener...
RNE, grading UA on what matters to me: Route Structure B- Reliability D+ Economy Seating A- Redemptions B+ |
Originally Posted by RNE
(Post 23994112)
But who wants to eat grass? ;)
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Originally Posted by RNE
(Post 23994112)
RNE, grading UA on what matters to me: Route Structure B- Reliability D+ Economy Seating A- Redemptions B+ Route Structure A- Reliability C GPU Upgrade A Redemptions B+ |
Still trying to figure out what to do in 2015. I am a 1K on UA with 205k PQMs this year.
Most of my travel is to NYC with some trips to Asia and Europe. My NYC travel may change next year and really the only options out of PDX are DL, UA, or AS. I have thought about status matching to AS MVPG75K but their options to the east coast are expensive and not that frequent. AS is also relatively expensive along the west coast. DL has a decent network on the west coast and they price pretty competitively with UA, with some F fares cheaper than UA Y fares. I would definitely miss the GPUs that I earn on UA but I wonder if that is a price worth paying. My year has just been abysmal with UA when it comes to irrops and customer service. |
Originally Posted by Hartmann
(Post 24003559)
Still trying to figure out what to do in 2015...My year has just been abysmal with UA when it comes to irrops and customer service.
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The grass IS greener on the other side, at least based on my experience.
I was loyal to UA (to the tune of 1.6M lifetime miles), but I had enough / moved over to AA at the beginning of 2014. Frankly, I expected them to be a little better, but not much. Boy what a nice surprise - my experience with AA this year has been vastly better than with UA. AA matched my 1k status (EXP) right off the bat. Most of my flying is domestic with LAX/JFK once or twice each month. What has been better: 1) Reliability - I've only had 1 flight delayed all year due to MX. 2) Upgrades - only missed 2 upgrades (free) all year. Vastly improved upgrade experience over UA. 3) Admirals Club - their clubs are much nicer: showers, significantly less crowded that UA clubs, food ($). 4) Their ground, flight, and phone staff are much more customer focused / generally seem happy. Seems like they actually give a hoot about customer service. Based on my experience this year, I'm going to continue with AA / abandon UA completely. It really is a shame to be honest, but it is what it is. What I find a bit odd is that I've been 1k for close to 12 years, annual spend of $30-40k and not even an e-mail from UA asking about the drop-off in my business this year... |
Originally Posted by Hartmann
(Post 24003559)
Most of my travel is to NYC with some trips to Asia and Europe. My NYC travel may change next year and really the only options out of PDX are DL, UA, or AS. I have thought about status matching to AS MVPG75K but their options to the east coast are expensive and not that frequent. AS is also relatively expensive along the west coast.
My year has just been abysmal with UA when it comes to irrops and customer service. Maybe pledge to DL? You'd get the benefits of AS locally and the frequencies of DL that you need. But then you're stuck with SkyTeam if alliances matter to you. I'm loosely married to OneWorld now, but I mostly buy on price and schedule these days. |
Originally Posted by Hartmann
(Post 24003559)
Still trying to figure out what to do in 2015. I am a 1K on UA with 205k PQMs this year.
Most of my travel is to NYC with some trips to Asia and Europe. My NYC travel may change next year and really the only options out of PDX are DL, UA, or AS. I have thought about status matching to AS MVPG75K but their options to the east coast are expensive and not that frequent. AS is also relatively expensive along the west coast. DL has a decent network on the west coast and they price pretty competitively with UA, with some F fares cheaper than UA Y fares. I would definitely miss the GPUs that I earn on UA but I wonder if that is a price worth paying. My year has just been abysmal with UA when it comes to irrops and customer service. If you're doing PDX-NYC and a nonstop is primary objective, DL seems like the obvious choice if your final destination Manhattan. EWR is awful. Not sure your exact locations in Europe and Asia, but SEA has great DL options these days. You could fly there on AS to connect to your DL flights. Just my two cents. |
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