Complimentary Beer/Wine Discontinued Jan 1, 2014 for transpacific/asia flights
#106
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Folks, I don't think this is nearly the issue it's being made out to be. For the people flying in F/BF they will see no change.
Most FAs will even tell you that on TPACs to Asia that alcohol comsumption is not nearly as much as on other routes.
While it does make UA look cheap, as far as calcuated risk I don't think UA will lose anything over this.
Most FAs will even tell you that on TPACs to Asia that alcohol comsumption is not nearly as much as on other routes.
While it does make UA look cheap, as far as calcuated risk I don't think UA will lose anything over this.
#107
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#108
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And if you are a UA FF you get some drink coupons so that takes the sting out of it.
I'm just being realistic that the risk to UA for doing this, and any negative consumer action to leave the carrier is minimal at best.
#109
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Actually, I'd prefer to buy food on international flights compared to the sh*t that's served now in Y. I have had some meals that were completely inedible. There was a 1"x1" piece of what appeared to be bark in my meal out of Dubai earlier this month. The FA told me that it was a spice and appeared in Indian food. It was definitely nothing I've ever seen (I'm a cook, have cooked Indian food and eat Indian food a lot, including in India). I try to bring several sandwiches on board. Just hoping my GPUs clear next year. I'll be close to 1MM and then I'm fleeing.
I think I have left over drink coupons for my flights to SIN in Jan and back in Feb. I'll need them even more to continue to fly UA.
I think I have left over drink coupons for my flights to SIN in Jan and back in Feb. I'll need them even more to continue to fly UA.
#110
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With HKG opening next year, I wish AA would get a 737 from IAH to DFW. I can't stand a MD80 and would move over to AA more for TPAC travel with decent metal. I don't fly on hardware older than I am.
#111
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I'd take a Mad Dog over The Devil's Chariot (aka CRJ) any day of the week.
#112
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Actually, I'd prefer to buy food on international flights compared to the sh*t that's served now in Y. I have had some meals that were completely inedible. There was a 1"x1" piece of what appeared to be bark in my meal out of Dubai earlier this month. The FA told me that it was a spice and appeared in Indian food. It was definitely nothing I've ever seen (I'm a cook, have cooked Indian food and eat Indian food a lot, including in India). I try to bring several sandwiches on board. Just hoping my GPUs clear next year. I'll be close to 1MM and then I'm fleeing.
I think I have left over drink coupons for my flights to SIN in Jan and back in Feb. I'll need them even more to continue to fly UA.
I think I have left over drink coupons for my flights to SIN in Jan and back in Feb. I'll need them even more to continue to fly UA.
FWIW, I do agree that on a 10+ hour flight, if I want to enjoy a glass of wine, I'd rather pay $7-10 for something decent than drink prison toilet wine for free.
glitch in the matrix? somehow posted twice
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#113
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Left 12 years ago 50k short of 1MM status and never looked back!
#114
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Unsurprising, but disappointing.
#115
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Folks, I don't think this is nearly the issue it's being made out to be. For the people flying in F/BF they will see no change.
Most FAs will even tell you that on TPACs to Asia that alcohol comsumption is not nearly as much as on other routes.
While it does make UA look cheap, as far as calcuated risk I don't think UA will lose anything over this.
Most FAs will even tell you that on TPACs to Asia that alcohol comsumption is not nearly as much as on other routes.
While it does make UA look cheap, as far as calcuated risk I don't think UA will lose anything over this.
#116
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Star Gold for life means you get treated decently on the rest of the alliance. If I ever reach 1MM, that's all I'll use it for, the way UA is headed.
#117
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Falls into the category of: Oh Magoo what will you do next.
Again.
They already do this in the lounges.
I get 10 chits a year and normally do 5-6 TPACs. You're telling me it's a legit move because I can still get 1 drink per direction?
Yes, i can see your point, a free drink every 10 hours is certainly a very nice way of UA saying welcome on board.
Oh but there will be hell to pay onboard for the FAs when unknowing pax are informed of this new policy.
And don't kid yourself, it will likely have downstream effects.
Again.
They already do this in the lounges.
Yes, i can see your point, a free drink every 10 hours is certainly a very nice way of UA saying welcome on board.
And don't kid yourself, it will likely have downstream effects.
#118
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Perhaps UA misread DL's press release.
Now Delta is again upping the ante by not only offering free beer and wine to all patrons, but now giving free spirits to all customers on most international flights! Flights which will have free spirits include all flights from the USA to Asia, Europe, intra-Asia, and most South America flights. Flights to/from Canada, the Caribbean, and Central America and select destinations in South America are excluded from this upgraded offering. To know if your flight is one of the many with free drinks, check on delta.com and verify there is BusinessElite service instead of standard First Class. If there is, then you will be drinking for free at 30,000 feet!
I am happy to say, that the "D" in Delta now stands for Drinks, so DRINK UP! Will other major carriers follow? I sure hope so, because other than ultra conservative Saudia, US based airlines are some of the world's only major airlines (not including low cost carriers) who do not provide free booze in the section of the plane where it's needed most to cope with ever shrinking seats! http://upgrd.com/blogs/doublewidesfl...l-Flights.html
Now Delta is again upping the ante by not only offering free beer and wine to all patrons, but now giving free spirits to all customers on most international flights! Flights which will have free spirits include all flights from the USA to Asia, Europe, intra-Asia, and most South America flights. Flights to/from Canada, the Caribbean, and Central America and select destinations in South America are excluded from this upgraded offering. To know if your flight is one of the many with free drinks, check on delta.com and verify there is BusinessElite service instead of standard First Class. If there is, then you will be drinking for free at 30,000 feet!
I am happy to say, that the "D" in Delta now stands for Drinks, so DRINK UP! Will other major carriers follow? I sure hope so, because other than ultra conservative Saudia, US based airlines are some of the world's only major airlines (not including low cost carriers) who do not provide free booze in the section of the plane where it's needed most to cope with ever shrinking seats! http://upgrd.com/blogs/doublewidesfl...l-Flights.html
#119
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Folks, I don't think this is nearly the issue it's being made out to be. For the people flying in F/BF they will see no change.
Most FAs will even tell you that on TPACs to Asia that alcohol comsumption is not nearly as much as on other routes.
While it does make UA look cheap, as far as calcuated risk I don't think UA will lose anything over this.
Most FAs will even tell you that on TPACs to Asia that alcohol comsumption is not nearly as much as on other routes.
While it does make UA look cheap, as far as calcuated risk I don't think UA will lose anything over this.
#120
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The ethical path would be to steer those passengers who express a need to drink to AA. :-: