United (UA) To Eliminate NRT-BKK (UA837,UA838) [Now gone]
Feb 14, 2014, 10:17 pm
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By the way, I recently flew NH's 763 in C class from NRT. If that's the aircraft they use on NRT-BKK, the C class seat is much less comfortable than on UA. I would describe it as barco lounger - it doesn't go fully flat at any angle, your feet are supported on a leg rest. Not really comfortable for sleeping, which is usually want I want to do when connecting from USA since the NRT departure time works out to around 1am PST.
Service and food are good, but the seat is poor. (NH's transpacific C seat in 788 was great, but not the Asian regional one on 763.)
Service and food are good, but the seat is poor. (NH's transpacific C seat in 788 was great, but not the Asian regional one on 763.)
Feb 15, 2014, 4:58 am
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By the way, I recently flew NH's 763 in C class from NRT. If that's the aircraft they use on NRT-BKK, the C class seat is much less comfortable than on UA. I would describe it as barco lounger - it doesn't go fully flat at any angle, your feet are supported on a leg rest. Not really comfortable for sleeping, which is usually want I want to do when connecting from USA since the NRT departure time works out to around 1am PST.
Service and food are good, but the seat is poor. (NH's transpacific C seat in 788 was great, but not the Asian regional one on 763.)
Service and food are good, but the seat is poor. (NH's transpacific C seat in 788 was great, but not the Asian regional one on 763.)
I have been on the NH 763 in Y, and it was pretty bad. I have not been on their 777, so hopefully it is a better Y seat.
I *THINK* it is a 777-200 with angled seats in C and no First Class.
Feb 15, 2014, 5:55 am
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It is only angled C seats on the 772 from BKK-NRT. I took it last week (NH916), I was thinking during the flight that this must be the only route where UA beats NH hands down since NH has no F and I assume all C are barca lounger type seats
Feb 15, 2014, 8:07 am
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We agree.
Feb 15, 2014, 9:19 am
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I was talking old TG 747 First vs UA GF. (To be clear - I am talking the Thai 747 1-2-1 First) We disagree. Both are lie flat. I think it is just preference.
If it was not a redeye, I would pick TG recliners over UA lie flat. However, I can see that many, if not most, would agree with you. But, again, just a preference.
Competititve in First? If the price was cheaper on UA, I would agree, "competitive". Price the same, I think we disagree, but, certainly, it is preference.
We agree.
It's actually sad, because I think there are many things UA could have done inexpensively to improve their product and stay competitive. Unfortunately their mentality has been not to figure out how to improve product but rather how to cut costs. That is not a winning strategy. It might work domestically in the US but it's not going to work on TPAC on intra-Asia.
Feb 15, 2014, 10:05 am
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With UA leaving BKK, I guess this is no longer a debate,
Feb 15, 2014, 2:13 pm
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Feb 15, 2014, 3:39 pm
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It almost seems to me that if the SFO-TPE nonstop does not fill up, then can tag back the TPE-BKK leg somehow.
Ideally using the same crew for TPE-BKK-TPE to keep the cost lower. That is not possible with the current schedule though (since the plane has to overnight in BKK but not long enough for crew rest as it has to make it back to TPE then SFO for the AM connects out of SFO).
Ideally using the same crew for TPE-BKK-TPE to keep the cost lower. That is not possible with the current schedule though (since the plane has to overnight in BKK but not long enough for crew rest as it has to make it back to TPE then SFO for the AM connects out of SFO).
Feb 15, 2014, 4:25 pm
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Just flew the TG 380 from NRT-BKK in J (after UA cancelled). TG is now so far ahead of UA in both hard and soft product . . . it was like taking a different mode of travel. Like comparing a covered wagon to a Cadillac. Literally everything was head and shoulders better, from the seat comfort, to the AVOD, to the quality of the hot towels (which they handed out every hour or so). And we're not even going to talk about the food and beverages.
Feb 15, 2014, 5:10 pm
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It almost seems to me that if the SFO-TPE nonstop does not fill up, then can tag back the TPE-BKK leg somehow.
Ideally using the same crew for TPE-BKK-TPE to keep the cost lower. That is not possible with the current schedule though (since the plane has to overnight in BKK but not long enough for crew rest as it has to make it back to TPE then SFO for the AM connects out of SFO).
Ideally using the same crew for TPE-BKK-TPE to keep the cost lower. That is not possible with the current schedule though (since the plane has to overnight in BKK but not long enough for crew rest as it has to make it back to TPE then SFO for the AM connects out of SFO).
Feb 15, 2014, 6:23 pm
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Feb 15, 2014, 8:09 pm
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Actually, TG looks to be running this config http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Tha...330-300_V2.php on the route, which is quite nice actually. Angle flat but very comfortable IMO.
Feb 15, 2014, 10:33 pm
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The angled flat seats on the 330 are not bad for a 2 or 3 hours flight. Sure beats an ERJ-145.
Feb 15, 2014, 11:02 pm
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I remember in the early 90s taking UA between TPE and BKK. There was even printed menu in Y!