CPUs improving ?
Mar 29, 2013 | 12:22 pm
#31
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Not to/from IAH.
I do wonder where the F seats are going that used to go to EUA/CPU/e500. What increased volume to consume them: buy ups? low P/Z/A fares? Y/B fares?
I do wonder where the F seats are going that used to go to EUA/CPU/e500. What increased volume to consume them: buy ups? low P/Z/A fares? Y/B fares?
Mar 29, 2013 | 12:23 pm
#32
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I have no idea what twilight zone I am living in, but my last three transcons have cleared with a CPU -
SFO-PHL - T/fare - A319 - Monday
EWR-LAX - G/fare - 738 - Tuesday (!)
SFO-PHL - T/fare - 738 - Tuesday
Plus clearance on PHL-ORD-LAX-SAN G-fare as well.
I'm not complaining...
SFO-PHL - T/fare - A319 - Monday
EWR-LAX - G/fare - 738 - Tuesday (!)
SFO-PHL - T/fare - 738 - Tuesday
Plus clearance on PHL-ORD-LAX-SAN G-fare as well.
I'm not complaining...
Mar 29, 2013 | 12:23 pm
#33
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You can't just look at status level. You have to look at where they fly to/from. As a gold flying out of SFO I am at 0%. Another Gold from a small elite light airport may be 60%. Average the 2 of us together (I know I am over simplifying) you get your 30%. So as a Gold out of a major hub if you ever get an upgrade consider yourself lucky. Especially if fly the typical travel days. But one of my usual travel days is Wednesday and I am 0% that day. Basically all I am saying is there is much more to the overall picture than a statistic on a website saying Golds are 30%.
Mar 29, 2013 | 12:25 pm
#34
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See the part of my comment about flights being trimodal. That was my point. You're seeing one of the modes.
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Mar 29, 2013 | 12:44 pm
#35
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While this is probably the subject of a different thread, there's clearly something afoot on some of these flights where I'm way down the list. This week, DEN-FLL flight. Flight was mid-day and mid-week to a tourist destination in the height of spring break season. This was not a typical Thursday or Friday night hub-to-hub flight. I finished #7 on the upgrade list on a pmUA 757 (24 seats in F). According to the mobile app, about half the folks in F were "upgraded" by some means or another. The other half apparently "booked" some variant of F or don't show on the mobile app as upgraded.
There's no way to convince me that:
There's no way to convince me that:
- A dozen people paid a full F fare to sit up front on a four hour flight.
- There were really 17 or 18 people ahead of me on the CPU list--it's highly unlikely that there were that many Y or B fares, or GSes, or even 1Ks on higher fare classes.
Mar 29, 2013 | 12:46 pm
#36
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I get the same day change idea but those pax who are switching flights have to be switching off another flight. So there shouldn't really be a net increase or decrease in F seats available because of SDC. I think one reasonable scenario is that typically pax SDC to earlier flights throughout the day at relatively consistent rates which would mean the last flight or two of the day should have an abundance of available F seats. Not sure that is the case.
Mar 29, 2013 | 12:47 pm
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Mar 29, 2013 | 12:47 pm
#38
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Got my first CPU of the year today IAD-LAX. As a gold flying to/from LAX-ORD/IAD, I never get my hopes up. I guess I'll have to remember to fly on semi-holidays on E fares. LAX-ORD on Monday with H fare I ended up #5/6.
Mar 29, 2013 | 1:00 pm
#39
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While this is probably the subject of a different thread, there's clearly something afoot on some of these flights where I'm way down the list. This week, DEN-FLL flight. Flight was mid-day and mid-week to a tourist destination in the height of spring break season. This was not a typical Thursday or Friday night hub-to-hub flight. I finished #7 on the upgrade list on a pmUA 757 (24 seats in F). According to the mobile app, about half the folks in F were "upgraded" by some means or another. The other half apparently "booked" some variant of F or don't show on the mobile app as upgraded.
There's no way to convince me that:
A dozen people paid a full F fare to sit up front on a four hour flight.
There were really 17 or 18 people ahead of me on the CPU list--it's highly unlikely that there were that many Y or B fares, or GSes, or even 1Ks on higher fare classes.
So I'm forced to conclude either they are (a) extremely successful at selling F seats at reduced rates, either through V-UP type fares or ToDs, either at booking or at check-in, and/or (b) the CPU algorithm isn't really as advertised. I'm slowly becoming convinced that (b) is a possibility as well somehow.
There's no way to convince me that:
A dozen people paid a full F fare to sit up front on a four hour flight.
There were really 17 or 18 people ahead of me on the CPU list--it's highly unlikely that there were that many Y or B fares, or GSes, or even 1Ks on higher fare classes.
So I'm forced to conclude either they are (a) extremely successful at selling F seats at reduced rates, either through V-UP type fares or ToDs, either at booking or at check-in, and/or (b) the CPU algorithm isn't really as advertised. I'm slowly becoming convinced that (b) is a possibility as well somehow.
I'd like to see who cleared, how and why... because I doubt it was according to the CPU published criteria.
Mar 29, 2013 | 1:08 pm
#40
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Mar 29, 2013 | 1:10 pm
#41
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I'm probably jinxing myself, but on limited experience, I am 4/6 out of LAX to MSY and AUS.
I have 6 flights booked for the next month though, so we shall see if my luck holds.
I have 6 flights booked for the next month though, so we shall see if my luck holds.
Mar 29, 2013 | 1:13 pm
#42
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I've noticed in the past few weeks that I've gone from being towards the top of the list to clearing regularly. I was 0/4 in January, but have been 4/4 in March. I wonder if it has to do with grace periods finally running out and statuses finally rolling off for some ex-plats and 1K's?
Mar 29, 2013 | 1:16 pm
#43
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I just cleared two CPUs SFO-LAS, LAS-SFO, in K fare. Both were last flight of the day. Mon/Thu.
This is the first time I've cleared two CPUs on an itinerary since the takeover - in more than two years.
However, these were sUA aircraft.
My CPU rate on sCO aircraft remains solidly at 0% for two years now.
This is the first time I've cleared two CPUs on an itinerary since the takeover - in more than two years.
However, these were sUA aircraft.
My CPU rate on sCO aircraft remains solidly at 0% for two years now.
Mar 29, 2013 | 1:29 pm
#44
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My flying is way down this year. but one observation I made was a recent SFO-YYZ flight, a flight for which there are no reasonable V-up (or discounted F seats), as a 319 was R5 a few days before the flight. I was already in F, my partner (Plat) was on a W fare in coach. The 1K window passed, still R4, plat window, R2, then it goes R0 at the gold window, then the flight swaps to a 320 (+4 seats). He ended up #6 on the list. I have a hard time believing that there were 4 plats/1K/GS on a higher fare (observing the lack of people in exit rows), and the presence of R seats post-GS/1K
I'd like to see who cleared, how and why... because I doubt it was according to the CPU published criteria.
I'd like to see who cleared, how and why... because I doubt it was according to the CPU published criteria.
IME, just because R>0 and a window has passed doesn't mean that all of the passengers at that level have been upgraded. In fact I've often seen R>0 within 48 hours on flights where I'm still waiting for an upgrade as a 1K.
Mar 29, 2013 | 1:32 pm
#45
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I have graciously donated my spot in line to those who are captive. My 0 UA miles this year with 40K done for AS... including some AA and DL segments. I am 100% upgraded on AS and 3/4 on DL (as an AS elite!!). Next time I fly UA, I will fly in F with a nice TOD, because I won't have status, so maybe I will get one!