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An Island Hopper [Micronesia] Definitive Guide on Where to Sit [UA B737] {this thread}

FAQs derived from findark's post (post #500)
What is the Island Hopper?

The Island Hopper is a United route between Honolulu and Guam, stopping at the islands of Majuro, Kwajaelin, Kosrae, Pohnpei, and Chuuk in between. The Island Hopper operates in both directions, and skips Pohnpei on certain days. You are allowed to get off the plane and "transit" at each stop except for Kwajaelin, which is a US Army base.

This route is similar to Alaska Airlines' "milk run" routes in rural Alaska. All of these routes serve as lifelines for the residents living in areas served by the routes, as the sole connection providing supplies and transportation to/from the rest of the world.

What is the Island Hopper schedule (as of 1/14/19)?
UA154 (the full Hopper) departs HNL Mon/Fri and flies HNL-MAJ-KWA-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM.
The shorter UA154 flies from HNL on Wed and does HNL-MAJ-KWA-PNI-TKK-GUM (skips KSA).
UA132 departs Sun and flies HNL-MAJ-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM (skips KWA).

UA193 (GUM-ROR-MNL)departs GUM on the evenings of Tue/Fri and flies GUM-ROR-MNL.

The Hopper arrives around 1800+1, so in order to do the entire flight without a stopover you would need to depart HNL on UA154 on Monday morning.


Should I experience the Hopper?

If you like hopping through short segments, with beautiful island views, as well as a constant parade of amazing cloudscape between islands, the Island Hopper may be for you!

Which direction (west or east) is better?

The prevailing wisdom here seems to be in favor of taking UA154 (HNL-GUM). findark did 155 from GUM to HNL, and I think there were some overlooked benefits. The eastbound Hopper has the advantage of doing all the fun stuff in the morning and afternoon when you're fresh and eager to enjoy. 14 hours onboard a 737 is a long time*, and doing it eastbound you can give in to the exhaustion and conk out for the final MAJ-HNL segment. Even the HNL arrival was actually not too bad - it's only 10:50pm Guam time, so if you head on to a hotel you're pretty much in line for a night's sleep.

The most notable downside of taking the Hopper eastbound is that you visit MAJ in darkness. We ran about 25m late the whole way, and it was full dark by the time we touched down in MAJ. Whichever way you go, don't do it on a Wednesday! Kosrae was my favorite island, and it would be a shame to miss it.

*And, I learned, while the flight mechanic hops off in MAJ and the pilots get to work in shifts, the cabin crew are on duty for the whole 14 hours. They were understandably a bit burnt out by the middle of MAJ-HNL, but were simply outstanding nonetheless - greeting kids and handing out wings as they boarded in MAJ.


What's with the plane configuration?

The Hopper is currently flown by a GUM subfleet 737-800 (currently Version 4 on the United website - Row 1 is set back several inches which yields fewer E+ seats). The seatmap is loaded as the "Asia local" 737 map, which looks roughly like a 737-700. Like with other "generic" maps, it will update to the full seatmap about 4 days before departure, when the additional rows will appear.

1AB are blocked for the augmented flight crew, who change places with the pilots in the cockpit at MAJ. 2AB are also blocked because the crew rest seats at 1AB will recline until almost touching row 2, and it is usually used for crew storage.

Where should I sit?

The key here is understanding approach and wind patterns, along with each airport's runway configuration. The following stops and runways are on the north side of their respective islands:

TKK (4/22), PNI (9/27), KSA (5/23)

The following stops have runways on the south side of their atolls:

KWA (6/24), MAJ (7/25)

The prevailing winds at this latitude blow from the east, so a typical landing goes from west to east (into the wind). Therefore, in order to have best views on final approach and initial takeoff, you want to be on the starboard (right, F) side for TKK, PNI, and KSA, and on the port (left, A) side for KWA and MAJ. If you are flying westbound, or you land backwards at any stop on the eastbound flight, then the flight may need to position into the approach, usually by overflying the island at higher altitude out to sea. In this case, both sides of the aircraft will get views, although the closer views belong to the "correct" side. In my case, we landed "backwards" on 22 at TKK, and used the regular 9, 5, 6, and 7 at the other stops.

You should absolutely have a window seat - why else are you here?! The best seats are therefore any window in the Business cabin (note that 1A and 2A are blocked), 7AF and 8AF in Economy Plus (10AF has a misaligned window but is okay, the missing window will kill you in 11 and then the wing really starts intruding), and anything nice and far behind the wing in Economy. In this vein, I declined an upgrade on GUM-TKK since only 2E was left, and we flew in 4A/7F, 2F/4A, 2F/3F, 3A/4A, 3A/4A, 2F/7F.


What can I do at the stops?

The best thing to do is get off the plane! You can take tarmac photos and get amazing close-ups of the plane. You will then be shepherded into the gate area, where there are restrooms (some lacking soap and/or towels) and often locals selling souvenirs and snacks. On our trip, the most substantial souvenirs were available at MAJ. If the flight is running late they will make an announcement requesting transfer pax to stay on the plane; however, as obviously savvy travelers who were along for the whole ride and could get on/off quickly with no bags to stow, we got absolutely no pushback from the purser whenever we went outside anyway.

If you do disembark, you are required to take all carry-on baggage with you. They conduct a security sweep onboard the aircraft and will remove unclaimed bags. As is mentioned many times in this thread, KWA is the exception - as it's a US Army base you cannot get off unless ticketed to there. On our flight, we were requested not to take photographs but were allowed to look out the window. I didn't see anything terribly interesting.

You can also use WiFi in the terminal/transit area when you disembark and at some stops you can get your passport stamped. MAJ, PNI, and KSA have confirmed free WiFi. Passport stamps have been confirmed at PNI, KSA, TKK without "exiting" just ask security about getting a stamp at these 3 airports and they should be able to accommodate you.

Should I check my bags?

Yes. As annoying as it was to wait ~10 minutes for our bags in HNL, it was a lot less annoying than having to haul them around each stop, and find bin space again once on board.


What is the food situation?

Going east is a slightly different meal schedule than west. GUM-TKK and KSA-KWA are coded Snack, and MAJ-HNL is Dinner. The first and last meals are reasonably substantial in J (think like a Breakfast and Dinner code) and somewhat small in Y (somewhat less than a meal in int'l Y - was six pieces of fruit and a muffin in the morning, followed by a turkey sandwich for dinner). The middle snack was just a pass of the snack basket up front; neither of us sat in Y that segment but I would guess they just offered almonds. Additionally, every segment they were offering J pax some packaged almonds.

My general verdict is if going the distance in Y, pack some snacks or buy them at the stops along the way. If you're in J then there's enough food for 14 hours of sitting.


And how about IFE?

Look outside! That's actually about all the IFE there is. The GUM fleet has no WiFi and only DirecTV. Note that DirecTV does not work outside of CONUS, so really it just has the 8-10 looping movies of DirecTV (slightly different movie set for an Asian audience). The movie loop resets at each stop, so unless you want to watch the first 1h30 of a movie six times, there's not much use to the IFE. It is at least free in Y. I brought a book and read it for the middle 20 minutes of each segment and until I fell sleep on MAJ-HNL.


Can I get an upgrade on the Hopper?

Empirically, yes! We were offered upgrades of 11/12 eligible segments; I declined a GUM-TKK upgrade to keep my window, and my companion's MAJ-HNL upgrade was eaten by UA IT (agent in MAJ apologized profusely but understandably wasn't going to remove the already-handed-out upgrades to the next 2 pax on the list).

In order to have any shot, however, you need to be able to split the direct flight into six segments. This generally cannot be done on a mileage ticket or a paid through fare, and would need to be done via multi-city ticketing if visiting an island. In my case, I spent a very long time getting an extremely wonderful pmCO agent who was able to hack my ticket together with 9 connections on the way home. As this is also the only way to choose different views for the different approach directions, I recommend asking for this rather than for upgrades. It causes quite the headache for UA systems, but in the end I felt like it was a huge benefit to fly pretty much all of it in J. Absolutely something I credit to the value of being 1K: I was able to ring the 1K desk many times to get agents to deal with the various hiccups that came along with a PNR that had eight tickets and at one point 36 segments attached to it.

The first five Hopper segments (going east) are CPU eligible; MAJ/HNL requires a GPU. We had GPUs on our reservation and did a mixture of advance clearing and clearing at the gates in the islands (where amazingly enough they had the new J BPs waiting!).


Where to stay and what to do in GUM and HNL?

I think this depends on lot on which way you're going. Flying east, we arrived in GUM around 11pm (maximizing time in Tokyo, but not crazy enough for the 2am arrival), and spent the night at the Days Inn Tamuning. It was at the very bottom of my quality standards, but quite affordable and with 9h45 of total ground time all in the dark I did not want to pay double for a beachfront property I would never enjoy.

In HNL, I took up the excellent recommendation in this thread of the Best Western Plaza Honolulu. It was the cheapest of the few airport hotels in HNL. Having cleared customs by 3:45 (we arrived late), it was off to bed quickly. The arrival is only ~11pm Guam time, so I highly recommend going straight to a bed on arrival in HNL. Afterwards, we took advantage of the 24h connect rule to spend the whole day in HNL before continuing on home to SFO. We were pretty exhausted after another redeye home, but the beach time in Hawaii was well worth it, especially after being taunted by all the beautiful mid-Pacific islands.

Big Metal Bird Episode 8: Island Hopper - 2018
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They just did a video in the Micronesia island hopper flight which is pretty interesting
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Old Oct 26, 2019, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by findark
I doubt the changes will have any effect other than you can spend half the "points" now. Everything except MAJ-HNL was CPU-eligible anyway, and most of the interior segments are easy CPUs, going with a couple of empty seats quite often.

Splitting the segments remains a Herculean task and the main barrier.
I see. I suppose it doesnt hurt to call in after booking and complain about not being able to select seats. I can always cancel. Or have them do the booking over the phone to start with.
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Old Oct 26, 2019, 7:50 am
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I see. I suppose it doesnt hurt to call in after booking and complain about not being able to select seats. I can always cancel. Or have them do the booking over the phone to start with.
The main problem is you are technically violating the fare rules unless you are starting with an expensive fare (in which case you can split the segments yourself by booking with multi-city). Certainly worth trying (and remember to apply the instrument first) but it did take me 5 1/2 hours over three agents and I have found myself to have much, much better luck at getting agents to do things than many here.
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Old Oct 31, 2019, 3:20 pm
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hi all. a previous attempt at booking the island hopper fell through for me earlier in the year, but I'm thinking about lining up another shot in a few weeks. a couple of questions for those who have done it before:

1. I can make the flights work to get around 24 hours in Pohnpei and Majuro. 2:45pm - 3:20pm+1 in Pohnpei, and 6:40pm - 8:05pm+1 in Majuro. Are stops in Pohnpei and Majuro worthwhile? If so, would I be missing out on anything amazing to see or do by limiting my time there to 24 hours?

2. In this scenario, I would turn around at Pohnpei. Similar question, but would I be missing out on an amazing experience by not actually completing the island hopper in full through to Guam? I've been to Guam twice before and although it would be great to visit again, my timeline probably doesn't allow it.

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Old Nov 3, 2019, 1:25 am
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Originally Posted by david_oz
hi all. a previous attempt at booking the island hopper fell through for me earlier in the year, but I'm thinking about lining up another shot in a few weeks. a couple of questions for those who have done it before:

1. I can make the flights work to get around 24 hours in Pohnpei and Majuro. 2:45pm - 3:20pm+1 in Pohnpei, and 6:40pm - 8:05pm+1 in Majuro. Are stops in Pohnpei and Majuro worthwhile? If so, would I be missing out on anything amazing to see or do by limiting my time there to 24 hours?

2. In this scenario, I would turn around at Pohnpei. Similar question, but would I be missing out on an amazing experience by not actually completing the island hopper in full through to Guam? I've been to Guam twice before and although it would be great to visit again, my timeline probably doesn't allow it.

thanks

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We spent the night at Majuro. It was fantastic. Because we were turning around, we only had the next morning to explore the lagoons a bit. With an extra afternoon, you should be able to visit Laura or even do some snorkeling. We didn't regret only spending 16 hours on Majuro, but wished we could stay at Pohnpei or Kosrae. If you enjoy hiking/diving, Pohnpei definitely worth staying a day or two.

We did see a couple beautiful atolls on PNI-TKK and TKK-GUM but I would value spending a day at Pohnpei over the scenery between PNI-GUM.
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Old Nov 3, 2019, 8:50 am
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We spent the night at Majuro. It was fantastic. Because we were turning around, we only had the next morning to explore the lagoons a bit. With an extra afternoon, you should be able to visit Laura or even do some snorkeling. We didn't regret only spending 16 hours on Majuro, but wished we could stay at Pohnpei or Kosrae. If you enjoy hiking/diving, Pohnpei definitely worth staying a day or two.

We did see a couple beautiful atolls on PNI-TKK and TKK-GUM but I would value spending a day at Pohnpei over the scenery between PNI-GUM.
thanks very much. This is super helpful
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Old Nov 15, 2019, 2:27 am
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Any tips and suggestions for getting a reasonably priced cash fare? All of the islands seem to have $1500-$2000 round trips from the mainland. With the introduction of the importance of segments to PQP next year, thinking the island hopper could be a fun way to knock out a bunch of segments.
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Any tips and suggestions for getting a reasonably priced cash fare? All of the islands seem to have $1500-$2000 round trips from the mainland. With the introduction of the importance of segments to PQP next year, thinking the island hopper could be a fun way to knock out a bunch of segments.
Although we won't know until we try it, I have a strong suspicion that the island hopper will only count as a single segment for PQF purposes (if taken as a through flight, anyway).

UA knows that they have a monopoly on those routes, and they price it accordingly.
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Old Nov 15, 2019, 9:17 am
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Although we won't know until we try it, I have a strong suspicion that the island hopper will only count as a single segment for PQF purposes (if taken as a through flight, anyway).
From the MP page that describes the changes --- "With Premier qualifying flights (PQF), every flight you take gets you closer to status. And by a flight, we mean a takeoff and landing." One hopes they stick to their word in this case. Doing an example search in January, 2020 suggests that the Island Hopper will, in fact, accrue PQF for each stop.
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Doing an example search in January, 2020 suggests that the Island Hopper will, in fact, accrue PQF for each stop.
So it does. That's... really unexpected, but I will give them credit for it. UA has been awful about credit for through flights for years; I wonder why they suddenly got a change of heart. Frankly, I figured it was just an example of the marketing guys not knowing the technical details of how things were implemented.

Thank you for the suggestion of actually looking, though. It never occurred to me. :blush:
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Originally Posted by ithinkurdumb
  • T-Mobile does not work in any of the islands between GUM and HNL, despite their support saying that domestic roaming is available on the "US Marshall Islands".
I was stranded at PNI for 8 hours because UA154 had a mechanical problem and I was connecting to GUM-ROR-ICN on a separate ticket. Fortunately T-Mobile WiFi roaming worked at PNI. I was able to call United and reroute to next day's GUM-NRT.
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Looking at booking a trip for Jan. I'm not a diver but love WW2 history. Which Island Hopper stop would you guys suggest?
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Old Dec 3, 2019, 12:11 pm
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Looking at booking a trip for Jan. I'm not a diver but love WW2 history. Which Island Hopper stop would you guys suggest?
I’d suggest Pohnpei if you have to stick to the island hopper strictly speaking. There’s a nice hike to a Japanese gun emplacement on top of Sokes Island. But if you can make it out to Palau there is so much more history. There is a contingent of about a dozen active duty U.S. military on Palau. Every month they go out to the islands of Peleliu and Anguar to maintain the World War II monuments that are blanketing those islands. It’s a trek to get to those islands but if you’re into history, there isn’t really a better spot on the Micronesian subcontinent.
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I’d suggest Pohnpei if you have to stick to the island hopper strictly speaking. There’s a nice hike to a Japanese gun emplacement on top of Sokes Island. But if you can make it out to Palau there is so much more history. There is a contingent of about a dozen active duty U.S. military on Palau. Every month they go out to the islands of Peleliu and Anguar to maintain the World War II monuments that are blanketing those islands. It’s a trek to get to those islands but if you’re into history, there isn’t really a better spot on the Micronesian subcontinent.
Would you skip PNI for ROR or do both? I have some extra time that I can cut from the end in NRT.
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Old Dec 3, 2019, 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by stockmanjr
Would you skip PNI for ROR or do both? I have some extra time that I can cut from the end in NRT.
If you’re after WWII history, Palau beats FSM and RMI hands down. Battles were fought, there is a history museum (Peleliu World War II Memorial Museum), there are numerous well kept monuments (by both the Japanese and the US), bloody nose ridge is a great hike. The caveat is that you’ll need transportation to Peleliu. There are tour boats that make the trip or you can charter Pacific Mission Aviation to fly you to the abandoned airstrip.
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Old Dec 3, 2019, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by therossinator
If you’re after WWII history, Palau beats FSM and RMI hands down. Battles were fought, there is a history museum (Peleliu World War II Memorial Museum), there are numerous well kept monuments (by both the Japanese and the US), bloody nose ridge is a great hike. The caveat is that you’ll need transportation to Peleliu. There are tour boats that make the trip or you can charter Pacific Mission Aviation to fly you to the abandoned airstrip.
I see that Peleiu is a bit of a mess to get to but looks very amazing!
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