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An Island Hopper [Micronesia] Definitive Guide on Where to Sit [UA B737] {this thread}

FAQs derived from findark's post (post #500)
What is the Island Hopper?

The Island Hopper is a United route between Honolulu and Guam, stopping at the islands of Majuro, Kwajaelin, Kosrae, Pohnpei, and Chuuk in between. The Island Hopper operates in both directions, and skips Pohnpei on certain days. You are allowed to get off the plane and "transit" at each stop except for Kwajaelin, which is a US Army base.

This route is similar to Alaska Airlines' "milk run" routes in rural Alaska. All of these routes serve as lifelines for the residents living in areas served by the routes, as the sole connection providing supplies and transportation to/from the rest of the world.

What is the Island Hopper schedule (as of 1/14/19)?
UA154 (the full Hopper) departs HNL Mon/Fri and flies HNL-MAJ-KWA-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM.
The shorter UA154 flies from HNL on Wed and does HNL-MAJ-KWA-PNI-TKK-GUM (skips KSA).
UA132 departs Sun and flies HNL-MAJ-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM (skips KWA).

UA193 (GUM-ROR-MNL)departs GUM on the evenings of Tue/Fri and flies GUM-ROR-MNL.

The Hopper arrives around 1800+1, so in order to do the entire flight without a stopover you would need to depart HNL on UA154 on Monday morning.


Should I experience the Hopper?

If you like hopping through short segments, with beautiful island views, as well as a constant parade of amazing cloudscape between islands, the Island Hopper may be for you!

Which direction (west or east) is better?

The prevailing wisdom here seems to be in favor of taking UA154 (HNL-GUM). findark did 155 from GUM to HNL, and I think there were some overlooked benefits. The eastbound Hopper has the advantage of doing all the fun stuff in the morning and afternoon when you're fresh and eager to enjoy. 14 hours onboard a 737 is a long time*, and doing it eastbound you can give in to the exhaustion and conk out for the final MAJ-HNL segment. Even the HNL arrival was actually not too bad - it's only 10:50pm Guam time, so if you head on to a hotel you're pretty much in line for a night's sleep.

The most notable downside of taking the Hopper eastbound is that you visit MAJ in darkness. We ran about 25m late the whole way, and it was full dark by the time we touched down in MAJ. Whichever way you go, don't do it on a Wednesday! Kosrae was my favorite island, and it would be a shame to miss it.

*And, I learned, while the flight mechanic hops off in MAJ and the pilots get to work in shifts, the cabin crew are on duty for the whole 14 hours. They were understandably a bit burnt out by the middle of MAJ-HNL, but were simply outstanding nonetheless - greeting kids and handing out wings as they boarded in MAJ.


What's with the plane configuration?

The Hopper is currently flown by a GUM subfleet 737-800 (currently Version 4 on the United website - Row 1 is set back several inches which yields fewer E+ seats). The seatmap is loaded as the "Asia local" 737 map, which looks roughly like a 737-700. Like with other "generic" maps, it will update to the full seatmap about 4 days before departure, when the additional rows will appear.

1AB are blocked for the augmented flight crew, who change places with the pilots in the cockpit at MAJ. 2AB are also blocked because the crew rest seats at 1AB will recline until almost touching row 2, and it is usually used for crew storage.

Where should I sit?

The key here is understanding approach and wind patterns, along with each airport's runway configuration. The following stops and runways are on the north side of their respective islands:

TKK (4/22), PNI (9/27), KSA (5/23)

The following stops have runways on the south side of their atolls:

KWA (6/24), MAJ (7/25)

The prevailing winds at this latitude blow from the east, so a typical landing goes from west to east (into the wind). Therefore, in order to have best views on final approach and initial takeoff, you want to be on the starboard (right, F) side for TKK, PNI, and KSA, and on the port (left, A) side for KWA and MAJ. If you are flying westbound, or you land backwards at any stop on the eastbound flight, then the flight may need to position into the approach, usually by overflying the island at higher altitude out to sea. In this case, both sides of the aircraft will get views, although the closer views belong to the "correct" side. In my case, we landed "backwards" on 22 at TKK, and used the regular 9, 5, 6, and 7 at the other stops.

You should absolutely have a window seat - why else are you here?! The best seats are therefore any window in the Business cabin (note that 1A and 2A are blocked), 7AF and 8AF in Economy Plus (10AF has a misaligned window but is okay, the missing window will kill you in 11 and then the wing really starts intruding), and anything nice and far behind the wing in Economy. In this vein, I declined an upgrade on GUM-TKK since only 2E was left, and we flew in 4A/7F, 2F/4A, 2F/3F, 3A/4A, 3A/4A, 2F/7F.


What can I do at the stops?

The best thing to do is get off the plane! You can take tarmac photos and get amazing close-ups of the plane. You will then be shepherded into the gate area, where there are restrooms (some lacking soap and/or towels) and often locals selling souvenirs and snacks. On our trip, the most substantial souvenirs were available at MAJ. If the flight is running late they will make an announcement requesting transfer pax to stay on the plane; however, as obviously savvy travelers who were along for the whole ride and could get on/off quickly with no bags to stow, we got absolutely no pushback from the purser whenever we went outside anyway.

If you do disembark, you are required to take all carry-on baggage with you. They conduct a security sweep onboard the aircraft and will remove unclaimed bags. As is mentioned many times in this thread, KWA is the exception - as it's a US Army base you cannot get off unless ticketed to there. On our flight, we were requested not to take photographs but were allowed to look out the window. I didn't see anything terribly interesting.

You can also use WiFi in the terminal/transit area when you disembark and at some stops you can get your passport stamped. MAJ, PNI, and KSA have confirmed free WiFi. Passport stamps have been confirmed at PNI, KSA, TKK without "exiting" just ask security about getting a stamp at these 3 airports and they should be able to accommodate you.

Should I check my bags?

Yes. As annoying as it was to wait ~10 minutes for our bags in HNL, it was a lot less annoying than having to haul them around each stop, and find bin space again once on board.


What is the food situation?

Going east is a slightly different meal schedule than west. GUM-TKK and KSA-KWA are coded Snack, and MAJ-HNL is Dinner. The first and last meals are reasonably substantial in J (think like a Breakfast and Dinner code) and somewhat small in Y (somewhat less than a meal in int'l Y - was six pieces of fruit and a muffin in the morning, followed by a turkey sandwich for dinner). The middle snack was just a pass of the snack basket up front; neither of us sat in Y that segment but I would guess they just offered almonds. Additionally, every segment they were offering J pax some packaged almonds.

My general verdict is if going the distance in Y, pack some snacks or buy them at the stops along the way. If you're in J then there's enough food for 14 hours of sitting.


And how about IFE?

Look outside! That's actually about all the IFE there is. The GUM fleet has no WiFi and only DirecTV. Note that DirecTV does not work outside of CONUS, so really it just has the 8-10 looping movies of DirecTV (slightly different movie set for an Asian audience). The movie loop resets at each stop, so unless you want to watch the first 1h30 of a movie six times, there's not much use to the IFE. It is at least free in Y. I brought a book and read it for the middle 20 minutes of each segment and until I fell sleep on MAJ-HNL.


Can I get an upgrade on the Hopper?

Empirically, yes! We were offered upgrades of 11/12 eligible segments; I declined a GUM-TKK upgrade to keep my window, and my companion's MAJ-HNL upgrade was eaten by UA IT (agent in MAJ apologized profusely but understandably wasn't going to remove the already-handed-out upgrades to the next 2 pax on the list).

In order to have any shot, however, you need to be able to split the direct flight into six segments. This generally cannot be done on a mileage ticket or a paid through fare, and would need to be done via multi-city ticketing if visiting an island. In my case, I spent a very long time getting an extremely wonderful pmCO agent who was able to hack my ticket together with 9 connections on the way home. As this is also the only way to choose different views for the different approach directions, I recommend asking for this rather than for upgrades. It causes quite the headache for UA systems, but in the end I felt like it was a huge benefit to fly pretty much all of it in J. Absolutely something I credit to the value of being 1K: I was able to ring the 1K desk many times to get agents to deal with the various hiccups that came along with a PNR that had eight tickets and at one point 36 segments attached to it.

The first five Hopper segments (going east) are CPU eligible; MAJ/HNL requires a GPU. We had GPUs on our reservation and did a mixture of advance clearing and clearing at the gates in the islands (where amazingly enough they had the new J BPs waiting!).


Where to stay and what to do in GUM and HNL?

I think this depends on lot on which way you're going. Flying east, we arrived in GUM around 11pm (maximizing time in Tokyo, but not crazy enough for the 2am arrival), and spent the night at the Days Inn Tamuning. It was at the very bottom of my quality standards, but quite affordable and with 9h45 of total ground time all in the dark I did not want to pay double for a beachfront property I would never enjoy.

In HNL, I took up the excellent recommendation in this thread of the Best Western Plaza Honolulu. It was the cheapest of the few airport hotels in HNL. Having cleared customs by 3:45 (we arrived late), it was off to bed quickly. The arrival is only ~11pm Guam time, so I highly recommend going straight to a bed on arrival in HNL. Afterwards, we took advantage of the 24h connect rule to spend the whole day in HNL before continuing on home to SFO. We were pretty exhausted after another redeye home, but the beach time in Hawaii was well worth it, especially after being taunted by all the beautiful mid-Pacific islands.

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UA's Micronesia Island Hopper - consolidated questions, advice, ....

Old Apr 1, 2014, 4:47 pm
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Any ideas to split this for someone on an award ticket? Looks like you can CPU on the smaller segments.
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Old Apr 9, 2014, 6:22 am
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I am planning to do the Island Hopper in August this year.

Any experience with upgrade instruments?

Do I use regional or global upgrades for this?

Do I need award availability on every segment to get the upgrade?

Thank you! ^
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Old Apr 9, 2014, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by Red Raider LV
I've got 6 boarding passes for the island hopper tomorrow. Even one for MAJ-KWA. Is this standard, or would this imply that UA has somehow split the segments.
If you do check-in at a kiosk, it will spit out all of the boarding passes. If you have an agent do it, it will spit out HNL-GUM or HNL-MAJ/MAJ-GUM.

I tried with multiple phone agents to split the segments, failed every time. Others had more luck.

And yes, flights can be booked on KWA directly online. There are people other than contractors and military that live there (Ebeye Island) and they have to get there somehow.
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Old Apr 9, 2014, 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by nanyang
I am planning to do the Island Hopper in August this year.

Any experience with upgrade instruments?

Do I use regional or global upgrades for this?

Do I need award availability on every segment to get the upgrade?

Thank you! ^
You will need the reward seat available on every segment for it to show up as option in your search. If say KSA-PNI does not have award space, then it will not show the Island Hopper as having reward seats.

I tried using a GPU for the Island Hopper and was told it is not possible.
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Old Apr 9, 2014, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by Hartmann
You will need the reward seat available on every segment for it to show up as option in your search. If say KSA-PNI does not have award space, then it will not show the Island Hopper as having reward seats.

I tried using a GPU for the Island Hopper and was told it is not possible.
I was told a regional upgrade is possible, as long as there is R space.
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Old Apr 9, 2014, 8:12 am
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Originally Posted by Hartmann
You will need the reward seat available on every segment for it to show up as option in your search. If say KSA-PNI does not have award space, then it will not show the Island Hopper as having reward seats.

I tried using a GPU for the Island Hopper and was told it is not possible.
Thank you Hartmann.

Sounds like the options are: pay for J / sit in Y.
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Old Apr 9, 2014, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by MatthewLAX
I was told a regional upgrade is possible, as long as there is R space.
And I have been told that has changed in the last few months. I was under the same impression as you.

Also, I was informed that it would require me to split the segments as its the market for HNL-GUM that is not allowing the RPU.
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Old Apr 9, 2014, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by nanyang
Thank you Hartmann.

Sounds like the options are: pay for J / sit in Y.
I spent 6 months studying this flight before I took it, and I never saw R the whole way from HNL-GUM. Even worse, Z availability was almost never available the whole way either.

I ended up booking a D fare I found which was somewhat reasonable from...get this...PTY-ROR as PTY-EWR-IAH-HNL-island hopper-GUM-ROR
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Old Apr 9, 2014, 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by ironmanjt
I spent 6 months studying this flight before I took it, and I never saw R the whole way from HNL-GUM. Even worse, Z availability was almost never available the whole way either.

I ended up booking a D fare I found which was somewhat reasonable from...get this...PTY-ROR as PTY-EWR-IAH-HNL-island hopper-GUM-ROR
Thank you for the intel. I know the date I need, so paid for a 7-day fare lock - never thought I'd use that feature...

One-way in Y currently - perhaps should do further research on return tickets (to Asia) in J etc.
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Old May 11, 2014, 8:12 pm
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Question trip planning help needed via the Island Hopper

Can anyone with recent experience on the Micronesia Island Hopper advise me how to use this service to travel to/from NZ?

I am looking at GUM-MAJ (5 islands)-AKL-CHC (via OZ?) and I plan to travel to/from GUM on points. I am trying to find a cost-effective companion fare to/from NZ. I prefer Star Alliance carriers but any advice is welcome, thanks!
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Old May 11, 2014, 8:17 pm
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Can anyone with recent experience on the Micronesia Island Hopper advise me how to use this service to travel to/from NZ?
Don't.

You want to do GUM-HNL on the hopper and then HNL-NZ? That's a long way out of the way unless you're going to be in GUM anyways. And even then still probably not a great routing.

HNL-AKL is possible on NZ metal 3x weekly as another option.
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Old May 11, 2014, 8:22 pm
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Don't.
+100. If you do (just for kicks and grins), add a day or two for IRROPS.
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Old May 17, 2014, 10:34 pm
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I did it in March, GUM-HNL. No problems with IRROPS, but GUM is not the best place to try to connect offline.
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Old May 29, 2014, 3:39 am
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Question more questions

I'm getting close to ticketing the Island Hopper, & have a couple more questions:
- Where to stay in Chuuk? Trip Advisor lists the Blue Lagoon Resort. Can anyone make a recommendation?
- If I disembark in TKK, I am paying a visa fee ($20 US). Any other transit fees?
- What will I miss seeing if I don't take the Island Hopper all the way to GUM?
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Old Jul 9, 2014, 2:56 pm
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Island Hopping (Will I be Able to Deplane and Briefly Exit the Airport at Each Stop?)

I am going to be in Guam later this year and then returning to the US. I have always wanted to take the Island Hopper from Guam/GUM to Honolulu (HNL). I can arrange that ticket with no problem. Here is the catch:

I run and like to record where I run on my GPS watch and then my software marks it on a map on my computer. I have run in multiple countries around the world. I would like to run on each of the islands that flight (UA155) makes a stop at between GUM and HNL. I need to run 1 mile for it to count. The plane stops on each island for 40 minutes. I will take me 9 minutes to run the mile.

Question: who do I ask to get permission to make the run on each island? United? the local authorities? somebody else? or some combination of the above?

Crazy question, but how many people in the world can say they have run on all those islands and prove it?

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