Status of United's 787 Fleet
May 4, 2013, 1:04 pm
#1201
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The 3rd UA 787 flew to San Antonio for the battery fix yesterday.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...900Z/KIAH/KSKF
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...900Z/KIAH/KSKF
May 4, 2013, 1:04 pm
#1202
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Why would you make such a comment when you could have looked yourself and saved the embarrassment?! Checked 1 in each market and they are at probably 20% capacity. Not that it might change quickly, so I'll ask again, does UA know they'll fill or not care about loads/revenue?
Last edited by MayorMcKnife; May 4, 2013 at 1:11 pm
May 4, 2013, 1:15 pm
#1203
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May 4, 2013, 1:20 pm
#1204
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When those 787 schedules appeared in the GDS overnight, they were showing only F/Y/B fare available. All discounted fares are now open.
May 4, 2013, 1:21 pm
#1205
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It is well known to UA employees that the F cabin is usually available for NRSA travel.
Also, even if some 3-cabin F are "only upgraders" those still are paid C tickets being upgraded. If you don't have an F product to upgrade into, then those passengers may as well just buy Y and upgrade into C vs. paying for C. So having an F also helps to sell C.
All that is changed is that, while I am paying for C (and sometimes F), it is not on United.
May 4, 2013, 2:08 pm
#1206
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May 4, 2013, 3:20 pm
#1207
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There probably wasn't enough of a market for AA's 10 seats and UA's 12 seats per plane, per frequency - but dollars to donuts there's plenty of room for AA alone in the market.
Having just gone to GRU and back in those C seats (will be F on A321), I can say the ride is going to be SPECTACULAR.
Having just gone to GRU and back in those C seats (will be F on A321), I can say the ride is going to be SPECTACULAR.
May 4, 2013, 3:32 pm
#1208
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The question I have is whether there would be more of a demand if the airline made trans-con F a true premium service (instead of essentially C with a different, and not better, seat).
With the bean counter mentality of the U.S. airlines these days, we'll never know.
With the bean counter mentality of the U.S. airlines these days, we'll never know.
May 4, 2013, 3:50 pm
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Why would you make such a comment when you could have looked yourself and saved the embarrassment?! Checked 1 in each market and they are at probably 20% capacity. Not that it might change quickly, so I'll ask again, does UA know they'll fill or not care about loads/revenue?
Folks on this board know I do my research first. But nice trying to "get me". I expected better from an experienced FTer.
To answer your question: UA cares about revenue - it is the note that is inaccurate.
Last edited by aacharya; May 4, 2013 at 4:22 pm
May 4, 2013, 3:51 pm
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Not in a long time, not a very long time. Domestic F for an employee is almost unheard of with the automatic upgrades for revenue passengers. We might see it on an international flight, but the best we might get domestically is E+.
May 4, 2013, 3:54 pm
#1211
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Must be why I didn't see them at IAH yesterday and today. Though didn't get a good look at the area when UPS planes are, so it's possible one or two were still there. The one that was parked east of Term D definitely wasn't there.
EmailKid, ready to fly the 787
EmailKid, ready to fly the 787
May 4, 2013, 5:00 pm
#1212
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I'm flying June 1 IAH - LAX in F on the 14:47 flight (737-900). They have just added in a 787 flight on the same route departing 15:00. Are they really going to fly both these planes or combine them?
May 4, 2013, 5:48 pm
#1213
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Here is the UA Schedule Nonstops IAH - LAX on June 1.
This is a heavy route everyday, and mid afternoon, on a saturday, lots of international connecting traffic from central america connecting to LAX and beyond I would imagine.
UA 452 IAH 06:04 LAX 07:52 319 0 -----6- 03:48
UA 70 IAH 06:05 LAX 07:45 788 0 1234567 03:40
UA 3 IAH 07:34 LAX 09:12 752 0 -----6- 03:38
UA 325 IAH 08:30 LAX 10:09 752 0 -----6- 03:39
UA 1239 IAH 09:20 LAX 11:00 753 0 -----6- 03:40
UA 1671 IAH 11:46 LAX 13:29 739 0 -----6- 03:43
UA 1147 IAH 13:20 LAX 15:06 739 0 -----6- 03:46
UA 1571 IAH 14:47 LAX 16:25 739 0 -----6- 03:38
UA 43 IAH 15:00 LAX 16:30 788 0 1234567 03:30
UA 1430 IAH 15:48 LAX 17:25 738 0 -----6- 03:37
UA 370 IAH 17:09 LAX 18:40 752 0 -----6- 03:31
UA 1210 IAH 17:46 LAX 19:40 739 0 -----6- 03:54
This is a heavy route everyday, and mid afternoon, on a saturday, lots of international connecting traffic from central america connecting to LAX and beyond I would imagine.
UA 452 IAH 06:04 LAX 07:52 319 0 -----6- 03:48
UA 70 IAH 06:05 LAX 07:45 788 0 1234567 03:40
UA 3 IAH 07:34 LAX 09:12 752 0 -----6- 03:38
UA 325 IAH 08:30 LAX 10:09 752 0 -----6- 03:39
UA 1239 IAH 09:20 LAX 11:00 753 0 -----6- 03:40
UA 1671 IAH 11:46 LAX 13:29 739 0 -----6- 03:43
UA 1147 IAH 13:20 LAX 15:06 739 0 -----6- 03:46
UA 1571 IAH 14:47 LAX 16:25 739 0 -----6- 03:38
UA 43 IAH 15:00 LAX 16:30 788 0 1234567 03:30
UA 1430 IAH 15:48 LAX 17:25 738 0 -----6- 03:37
UA 370 IAH 17:09 LAX 18:40 752 0 -----6- 03:31
UA 1210 IAH 17:46 LAX 19:40 739 0 -----6- 03:54
Last edited by Wildfan88; May 4, 2013 at 5:50 pm Reason: clean up format
May 4, 2013, 7:12 pm
#1214
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You didn't check the actual fare and loads. You can buy all manner of tickets in non-full fare. I'm not embarrassed - I checked first. You checked, looked at seat space, which has nothing to do (directly) with loads, and didn't even bother to see that the pricing was a low fare class, and not what that random note said.
Folks on this board know I do my research first. But nice trying to "get me". I expected better from an experienced FTer.
To answer your question: UA cares about revenue - it is the note that is inaccurate.
Folks on this board know I do my research first. But nice trying to "get me". I expected better from an experienced FTer.
To answer your question: UA cares about revenue - it is the note that is inaccurate.
You didn't do any research before your knee jerk post - I got you.
May 4, 2013, 8:01 pm
#1215
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I assume you know that there are no auto upgrades on PS flights and I standby my comment. F on PS flights is still normally available for NRSA travel.