What is an "average" cost to obtain 1K
#76
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I'm just under $5K to hit 1K this year. The only domestic flights were feeders to international segments.
No MRs. Which I'm actually sad about because I generally enjoy going somewhere, even if it's just for lunch.
Another note: I'll hit 1MM sometime next year (includes the EQM uptick) and all but 15K miles were on my own dime.
No MRs. Which I'm actually sad about because I generally enjoy going somewhere, even if it's just for lunch.
Another note: I'll hit 1MM sometime next year (includes the EQM uptick) and all but 15K miles were on my own dime.
#77
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Location: London & Sonoma CA
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I'll hit 110,000 miles this year for a spend of c$10,000, with about 20,000 on other *A carriers. This is mostly international travel and mostly sub-W fares as no upgrades seem confirmable at booking and I won't play the lottery. This results in only 3 of 6 GPUs being used. My spend includes 10 lots of the exorbitant UK departure tax so otherwise would be lower. I've never had an IDB voucher or anything like that so it is pure spend, but obviously on cheap fares.
Why do I do it? Because I have to fly that much and it makes sense to consolidate with *A. Would I do a mileage run to reach 1K for the GPUs? Probably not, but I might be tempted to alter routings etc. from mid-summer on (when plans are reasonably certain) so as to pick up more EQMs to put me over the top. Will I miss 1K when my travel slows down? I'd miss the occasional upgrade to Business, but otherwise probably not. There's no special treatment nowadays, I don't drink on planes and I've only had one upgrade on my five transcons this year. Do I think UA's gone to hell? No - the old program was delightfully generous and was never going to last. If they would occasionally run a schedule without cancellations and on-time, then I'd be a reasonably happy customer and I'd be a very happy customer if there were some recognition of status on board.
Why do I do it? Because I have to fly that much and it makes sense to consolidate with *A. Would I do a mileage run to reach 1K for the GPUs? Probably not, but I might be tempted to alter routings etc. from mid-summer on (when plans are reasonably certain) so as to pick up more EQMs to put me over the top. Will I miss 1K when my travel slows down? I'd miss the occasional upgrade to Business, but otherwise probably not. There's no special treatment nowadays, I don't drink on planes and I've only had one upgrade on my five transcons this year. Do I think UA's gone to hell? No - the old program was delightfully generous and was never going to last. If they would occasionally run a schedule without cancellations and on-time, then I'd be a reasonably happy customer and I'd be a very happy customer if there were some recognition of status on board.
#78
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,645
well being that I avg 6 changes per tkt and at times simply redepositing the whole tkt. It has paid for me to keep my 1K, and with family on the WC where Id visit anyway 9 times a yr and 33k for my 3 Intl trips I need to take Id end up close to 90k so doing the extra 10k is a no-brainer. btw those 3 Intl trips would cost me bet $4500-5000 and yield only 33k, so my way I pay alot less earn over 200k RDMs and end up ahead. It probably wont work this way for everyone
As I already said I can spend $1200 to fly to SIN and earn 22k EQMs or spend $1600 and earn 11k or fly via some Russian carrier with a 13 hr layover stuck in the airport for $1200 to my Intl destination
the second the #s stop adding up in my favor is the sec I move on,I did that with BA and DL and wont any sleep if I have to add COdbaUA to the list
As I already said I can spend $1200 to fly to SIN and earn 22k EQMs or spend $1600 and earn 11k or fly via some Russian carrier with a 13 hr layover stuck in the airport for $1200 to my Intl destination
the second the #s stop adding up in my favor is the sec I move on,I did that with BA and DL and wont any sleep if I have to add COdbaUA to the list
#79
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,645
One does NOT necessarily strive to achieve 1K for ANY ONE particular reason, like saving change fees, free upgrades, or 3X70 lbs of luggage, my friend! (and I mean that with all sincerity, as it is not my purpose to argue my position, nor is it my determination to drive home my point). All I'm simply saying is that some people do strange things in other people eyes and have good reasons for doing so, in their own minds. Many on here are 1K's due to business travel and others, like me, are on flying on their own dime. Striving to achieve, say 3MM BIS and life-time 1K status when one is only a few years away may seem crazy to some and then it might just be something that makes sense to others.
I think that you are missing my point, and that is --- I say, "Judge not, lest you be judged", and it's really time that some folks on here (not pointing any fingers) learn that everyone has the right to do and spend their time and money anyway that they want, and devoting endless hours on FT and constantly ridiculing others seems to be some people's idea of enjoyment, but for me, I like to fly on airplanes and the cheaper the ticket, the better I like it!!!
I think that you are missing my point, and that is --- I say, "Judge not, lest you be judged", and it's really time that some folks on here (not pointing any fingers) learn that everyone has the right to do and spend their time and money anyway that they want, and devoting endless hours on FT and constantly ridiculing others seems to be some people's idea of enjoyment, but for me, I like to fly on airplanes and the cheaper the ticket, the better I like it!!!
No need for lectures on judgement. There is no judgement here.
There are questions and there is discussion. That's it. It's an exploration. It's a chat. I am genuinely curious, hence, I am asking questions.
If there is any tinge of judgement coming from me, it's solely on an environmental level. Questioning the environmental impact of so much non-essential flying. But, that's a question I ask as much of myself as anyone else, not a question I ask only of others while "sitting in my bedroom" as you so respectfully put it.
#80
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Hawaii
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I will cross the 100k mile mark for the year after my current trip. I live in Hawaii and end up spending between $10-15K each year. I fly 2-3 international trips to Asia each year, and domestic for the rest. I can't imagine how anyone could achieve 1K spending only 3K per year. Travel T/F Hawaii is relatively expensive.
#81
Join Date: Jun 2005
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I will cross the 100k mile mark for the year after my current trip. I live in Hawaii and end up spending between $10-15K each year. I fly 2-3 international trips to Asia each year, and domestic for the rest. I can't imagine how anyone could achieve 1K spending only 3K per year. Travel T/F Hawaii is relatively expensive.
#82
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I did. PHL-EWR-HNL for sub $350 in April 2013.
#84
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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In my case... I am an avid fan with a lot of passion for the aviation industry and I love flying... I have always wanted to be a pilot and I play MS Flight Simulator quite often. Unfortunately, due to my deafness, pursuing a career as a pilot will never happen, not even a career as FA. I am not really interested in being a mechanic and working in a warehouse fixing planes. I want to be up in the air, not on the ground.
I could sit for hours and hours just watching planes take-off and land. It is just simply a passion of mine.
I would love a job that requires significant traveling, even if it is a rather sucky job, the fact that I get to do what I love to do as part of my job is what matters the most. If anybody has any idea or something they think would fit me well, then I am all ears!
Bottom line, I fly a bunch on relatively cheap fares out of love for being 35K feet above the ground. I acknowledge that I do not spend as much as many of you, and not as low as many of you as well , so I know where I belong in the pecking order when it comes to upgrades/IROPs and I set my expectations accordingly.
I could sit for hours and hours just watching planes take-off and land. It is just simply a passion of mine.
I would love a job that requires significant traveling, even if it is a rather sucky job, the fact that I get to do what I love to do as part of my job is what matters the most. If anybody has any idea or something they think would fit me well, then I am all ears!
Bottom line, I fly a bunch on relatively cheap fares out of love for being 35K feet above the ground. I acknowledge that I do not spend as much as many of you, and not as low as many of you as well , so I know where I belong in the pecking order when it comes to upgrades/IROPs and I set my expectations accordingly.
#85
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But dont forget I used 2 RPUs to UP my NY-LA-NY part of the tkt and Im overnighting @ LAX on my way out either I will p/u a cheap hotel stay or use a Marriott cat4 from the MB, so by braking up the flights its not really as bad as you think but yes its still Y and Ive been lucky where my flights have been far from full and thusly usually yielding me a whole row to myself to lie down in. If planned right its very doable and not so bad.
What I do is find places that offer me things I like to do or see and head there, and not every year either.Last time to HKG was 5 yrs ago and I will take in those things I didnt the last time.So yea it means going during off peak times but that also means its not as crowded as it usually gets.
I fully understand this isnt for everyone and most folks would rather MR here in the US even with an immediate turn around instead and then use the RDMs for a C award tkt. But my RDMs are needed for 3 trips I need to take every year where as I said Y is bet .10-.15 cpm
My pt is each person needs to sit and crunch the #s and see what if anything works for them personally and what works for you might not for me and vice versa = theres no 1 way that makes sense and another that doesnt make sense for everybody.
A friend flys close to 30 times bet NY & FL every year, takes 1 vacation a year and outside of those flights no way will he set foot onto a plane just for the sake of flying, he doesnt even want to fly back & forth to FL as he does. The Game isnt for everybody , hed rather spend his time with his family and doing things he enjoys doing and flying just happens not to be on his list of fun things
#86
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My Jan NY-ONT fare was $52 after using a $100 eCert and earns 6100+ EQMs My Jan NY-LA-HKG-SIN-NRT-LA-NY trip was $1204 - a $400 VDB = $804 for 22k eqms
Thats why spending < $3k and flying 1K is very possible, but last yr wasnt as lucative as yrs past have been for VDBs. Fly off season Intl, and wait for the good sales EC-WC and apply an eCert and bingo 1K is very easy if you have the time and patience, both of which I have tons of
#87
Join Date: May 2007
Location: WAS
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP, WN A+, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Amb, Hertz PC
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Only made it to 81K miles last year for ~$18.5K in spend (about 90% of $ was business while about 1/3 of miles were personal trips).
This year, I'll probably end up somewhere around 85K miles for $13K-$14K in spend (about 80% business while about 25% of miles were personal trips).
For business travel, it's not difficult for me to end up spending $1k on a ticket that only earns 1000-3000 miles.
This year, I'll probably end up somewhere around 85K miles for $13K-$14K in spend (about 80% business while about 25% of miles were personal trips).
For business travel, it's not difficult for me to end up spending $1k on a ticket that only earns 1000-3000 miles.
#88
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: IAH
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103K this year on just shy of 23K spend. Lots of international with paid BizFirst one way and W on the other legs with hopes of using a GPU, so 1/2 paid business first ups the spend --- 0.22 cpm. All RPUs and GPUs cleared this year, even some LHR-IAH and a PVG-IAH clearing.
#89
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But the e-Certs are currency and you are really not getting the ticket for $804 because you still had to use an e-Cert. So without the e-certs your out of pocket expense would be much more. But no matter how you slice it you had to come up with $1204 for the ticket...semantics I guess.
What would you say if a person had an award tkt got the VDB and earned EQMs on the new flight/s since the Rep set it up as a rev tkt instead of an award tkt, do they have to go find out what a walk-up fare would cost and add that in? On a fare only basis yes but not on what did it cost me basis
and those $400 VDBs at times cost me a couple of hrs each of my time flying on a different flight that left later, while other times I ended up arriving at my final destination hrs before I was suppose to as I was put onto a non-stop. But since it didnt cost me any $$ to get them then as far as Im concerned my cost is $804 and not $1204. But I would have done it for $1204 as well, if I need to pay for a hotel overnight I would add that to my overall costs even thou it wasnt apart of the actual fare, so doing a MR and having say 10 hrs overnight and grabbing a $100 hotel just pushed my total up by $100, btw the same if due to WX & I had to spend the night and paid for a hotel room my overall total would go up
#90
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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My two cents...for what's worth
These types of posts are always predictible. I guess I don't understand why some people care (almost to an extreme) about how or why others earn their premier status. The only thing that becomes competitive amongst premier members is upgrades and the hierarchy of upgrades based on fare paid takes care of that issue. It's akin to someone who works 60 hours per week to make a very comfortable living being upset at someone who works 30 hours per week but made some very good investments living the same comfortable life. I don't understand the resentment.
As far as the MR vs non-MR people. I am taking my first ever MR at the end of the month (CLE-IAD-SFO-SEA-SFO-EWR-CLE) with the intention of earning Silver. The $248 I spent on the MR, for me, is more than worth it considering the money I will save on checked bag fees and E+ fees over the next ~14 months. Many of my flights out of CLE are less than 500 miles so the 500 mile minimum is a nice bonus. I also don't understand why it's so difficult for some to understand why others see the value in a MR.
As far as the MR vs non-MR people. I am taking my first ever MR at the end of the month (CLE-IAD-SFO-SEA-SFO-EWR-CLE) with the intention of earning Silver. The $248 I spent on the MR, for me, is more than worth it considering the money I will save on checked bag fees and E+ fees over the next ~14 months. Many of my flights out of CLE are less than 500 miles so the 500 mile minimum is a nice bonus. I also don't understand why it's so difficult for some to understand why others see the value in a MR.
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