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Old Nov 7, 2012, 1:33 pm
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What is an "average" cost to obtain 1K

I know this is a terribly ambiguous question, and I'm not looking to collect some rolling list of anecdotal experiences but I was wondering if anyone has a researched feel for the ranges here? This is the first year that I've split loyalty between airlines (status matched over to DL). I had already put in 50K or so on UA at that point though so I wanted to inch over the 1K line. This meant I actually, for the first time, built spreadsheets to track this stuff (I know, the rest of FT is way ahead of me here). In any event, I also kept track of the cost of each ticket and where I was sending revenue. I'm basically done booking travel for 2012 and the final tally will be (baring last minute work or irrops):

UA: 100,115 miles / $12,027.71

That is purely fare revenue. Didn't include anything else. I was curious if that was considered "average" to make 1K since I'm intentionally just crossing the line this year? I guess another way to phrase it is, does paying $0.12/cpm make me an "over-entitled 1K" because I'm actually not that profitable?

I honestly have no feel for this at all, so if I'm missing something obvious feel free to point it out... nicely.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 1:50 pm
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I raised this topic in a different thread a few days ago, so I'd be interested in seeing an updated set of numbers. (Not the old threads from '03-'05 or from the DEQM years.) Personally, I'm right about in the same ballpark. I've paid somewhere over $10k, but not $15k, with $12k being a decent estimate. (I haven't seen the numbers on some of my work travel.)
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That totally depends. If you live in the right city and do MRs, as little as $3k.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by MrMarket
I know this is a terribly ambiguous question, ....
There is no such thing as an "average" 1K -- while there is a statistical average, the range is wide and distribution is unlikely linear.
For some history on this, you can reference some past threads

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Originally Posted by burlax
That totally depends. If you live in the right city and do MRs, as little as $3k.
but the is hardly the average 1K, more like 4 or 5 sigma case.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 2:23 pm
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Originally Posted by burlax
That totally depends. If you live in the right city and do MRs, as little as $3k.
The last 2 yrs I earned 1K with alot less spend then $3k, next yr wont be as low I est apx $2500 already have 47k booked @ $1400 most of the 53k to go will be via Trancons and connecting = 6+ each trip, yes with eCerts 53k can be done for $1100
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 2:39 pm
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eh...kinda depressing. I am right at 80K with a spend of roughly $35K-40K. Lots of domestic short hop M fares with the occasional B....

Now should I do a MR on my own in December to get 1K??

gotta be close to GS, I would hope, please!
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 2:42 pm
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Originally Posted by MrMarket
I know this is a terribly ambiguous question, and I'm not looking to collect some rolling list of anecdotal experiences but I was wondering if anyone has a researched feel for the ranges here? This is the first year that I've split loyalty between airlines (status matched over to DL). I had already put in 50K or so on UA at that point though so I wanted to inch over the 1K line. This meant I actually, for the first time, built spreadsheets to track this stuff (I know, the rest of FT is way ahead of me here). In any event, I also kept track of the cost of each ticket and where I was sending revenue. I'm basically done booking travel for 2012 and the final tally will be (baring last minute work or irrops):

UA: 100,115 miles / $12,027.71

That is purely fare revenue. Didn't include anything else. I was curious if that was considered "average" to make 1K since I'm intentionally just crossing the line this year? I guess another way to phrase it is, does paying $0.12/cpm make me an "over-entitled 1K" because I'm actually not that profitable?

I honestly have no feel for this at all, so if I'm missing something obvious feel free to point it out... nicely.
Is this entirely on UA or total *A spend? Obviously that matters, but for someone like myself I don't know how to split a fare when the itin involves other *A airlines and UA flights.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 2:50 pm
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Is this entirely on UA or total *A spend? Obviously that matters, but for someone like myself I don't know how to split a fare when the itin involves other *A airlines and UA flights.
why should it matter which Carrier was flown? Now if GS ws the goal then yes it would matter as I believe only UA metal counts in that Game
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 2:55 pm
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I spent $3,000 to $3,500 to become 1K. Nine of the LGA-ORD/IAH-PDX flights helped (2.7 cpm), and the rest were 4-5cpm flights, some rebookings in Y, etc.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 2:59 pm
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I'm at about 29k for 139k miles this year. Sadly, the ones above who spend 3k-6k are the ones ruining things for other 1k's who actually provide revenue.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by matthopp
eh...kinda depressing. I am right at 80K with a spend of roughly $35K-40K. Lots of domestic short hop M fares with the occasional B....

Now should I do a MR on my own in December to get 1K??

gotta be close to GS, I would hope, please!
unlikely GS, GS seems to just look just full fare numbers
more in http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-q-2012-a.html
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Originally Posted by craz
why should it matter which Carrier was flown? Now if GS ws the goal then yes it would matter as I believe only UA metal counts in that Game
Originally Posted by MrMarket
I guess another way to phrase it is, does paying $0.12/cpm make me an "over-entitled 1K" because I'm actually not that profitable?

I honestly have no feel for this at all, so if I'm missing something obvious feel free to point it out... nicely.
I was thinking if I spent 4,000 on UA and then 4,000 on *A then UA might consider that person over entitled when flying UA. These are not my numbers, but I do fly mix airline itins relatively often so just crossed my mind as a question.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by nevansm
I'm at about 29k for 139k miles this year. Sadly, the ones above who spend 3k-6k are the ones ruining things for other 1k's who actually provide revenue.
Nice to see the unity we have here. Paid for all those miles yourself?
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by matthopp
eh...kinda depressing. I am right at 80K with a spend of roughly $35K-40K. Lots of domestic short hop M fares with the occasional B....
Yeah I was at 80 as well, and just got to 100,400 with a milage run...around $33k total.

Guess this speaks to why some of us would prefer a revenue-based program.
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Old Nov 7, 2012, 3:15 pm
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Originally Posted by nevansm
I'm at about 29k for 139k miles this year. Sadly, the ones above who spend 3k-6k are the ones ruining things for other 1k's who actually provide revenue.
I booked most of my Jan & Feb trips back in late Aug and applied my RPUs. I dont see how I ruined anything for anyone! Now I Never said Im 1 of UAs top flyers or Rev generators. But then again Im on my own Dime

I think what UA should do is watch the spend and make sure that 1K or GS is Only earned when spending your own $$$, after all why should those not spending their own $$$ Ruin it for those who are
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