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Old Sep 16, 2014, 3:01 pm
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United’s 24-hour flexible booking policy
and Ticket refund policies - Booking service fees
April 2020
We know that life happens, and you may need to change your travel plans unexpectedly. United's 24-hour flexible booking policy gives you the freedom to make changes to select reservations within 24 hours of booking and ticketing, without being charged change fees if you made your purchase one week or more before the flight was scheduled to depart. This includes canceling your reservation and requesting a full refund of the ticket price. Although Basic Economy reservations aren’t eligible for changes within 24 hours, they’re still eligible for a full refund if you cancel within 24 hours and you made your purchase one week or more before the flight was scheduled to depart. Please view the terms and conditions below for more details.Terms and conditions
  • Applies to tickets booked at united.com, United City Ticket Offices, airport ticket counters or with the United Customer Contact Center.
  • The 24-hour timeframe begins at the time you book and ticket your reservation.
  • Requests for refunds will be credited back in the original form of payment, except for purchases made with a United Gift Certificate, which will be credited back in the form of electronic travel certificates.
  • Group tickets are subject to the terms of the group contract.
  • Tickets purchased using e-certificates are excluded. (New April 2020)
  • Reservations that are being held but have not yet been purchased are excluded.
  • Any FareLock® fees paid to hold a reservation will not be refunded.
Previous wording - Dec 2019
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Note: United refers to this as "United’s 24-hour flexible booking policy", not just cancellations. UA includes routing changes, pricing changes, fare class changes, ..... as well as simple cancellations. But the timeframe is based on the original purchases and not reset by a change. Only a cancellation and then separate rebooking would achieve that.

Reservation booking service fees and close-in booking fees for award tickets are refundable only if you cancel your reservation within 24 hours of purchase. These sometimes may take an extra request.

Starting 2016Q4 ticket receipts state
Refunds Within 24 Hours

When you book and ticket a reservation through united.com, the United mobile app, the United Customer Contact Center, at our ticket counters or city ticket offices, or if you use MileagePlus® miles to book an award ticket, we will allow you to cancel the ticketed reservation without penalty and receive a 100 percent refund of the ticket price to the original form of payment if you cancel the reservation within 24 hours of purchase and if the reservation is made one week or more prior to scheduled flight departure.
The website link does now mention the 7 day restriction (new 2017Q2) and the CoCs has contained the 7 day restriction for awhile. This is allowed by the DoT rules. However, no reports yet of UA enforcing the 7 day restriction.

DOT 24 refund rule, announcement
DOT requires airlines to either hold a reservation for 24 hours without payment or refund a paid ticket — even a non-refundable one — if you cancel within 24 hours of purchase and you purchased your ticket more than 7 days before your flight.

Airlines are free to choose between holding a reservation without payment in these circumstances or refunding after payment; they don’t have to offer both options. ...
76 Fed. Reg. 23110, 23166, Apr. 25, 2011

Further DOT Guidance on 24 hour rule
Note the present UA implementation in practice is more generous -- no 7 day limitation enforcement as of yet.
UA's 24 hour rule was in place long before the DOT requirement .

Note -- a changed ticket does not get a new 24-hour free cancel period -- that benefit only applies to the original purchase.

Does the 24 hour rule apply to award tickets?
Yes

Does the 24 hour rule apply to close in bookings?
Yes but cancellation must be done before scheduled departure.
While the policy revision in 2018 add the DOT allowed 7-day exemption, UA has generally allowed this and not enforced the 7-day exemption. There has been just one FT reported situation where the 7-day was enforced and it had other factors.

In the case of credit card purchases, on a cancellation, the credit charge may be left pending and never finalized. So in the end it is as if it never happen.

Basic Economy tickets -- are they projected by the 24 hour rule?
Yes, UA is allowing cancellation of BE tickets in the first 24 hour (consistent with DOT requirements. But as UA allows changes also of other fares in the first 24 hours, it will not allow that of BE . The distinction is minor but

Book a reservation with ETC but cancelled with 24 hours, will the ETC be refunded?
Yes it should but UA can be rather slow on this and occasionally will drop the ball. You may need to followup. Note the refunded ETC will have the same expiration as the original ETC. (So, not a way to extend the ETC ) -- Note in late 2020, UA's practice does seem to have changed to issuing NEW ETCs

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Old Aug 3, 2023, 9:29 pm
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Originally Posted by paperwastage
A message stating an excessive timeline and the refund actually taking too long are two very different things. The first hardly worthy of a DOT complaint if you're still getting the money within the DOT required time frame. In either case, going the DOT route will likely get a response after even the later timeline has passed.

Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Generally 24 hour credit cancels are just letting the pending change expire, so no refund, just not charged.
Rule of thumb is same day, pacific time. If you cancel the same day then it will void the ticket and let the pending authorization fall off per card issuer's policy (not an active reversal of the authorization). If you cancel next day (but still within 24 hours), it will refund the ticket which shows up as a posted charge and credit.
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Old Aug 21, 2023, 6:37 am
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Only found one data point on this from 2015, so seeing if anyone has more recent information.
Wondering about the following exclusion:
>> Reservations that are being held but have not yet been purchased are excluded.

I am waiting for an ETC to be issued and the agent kindly put the reservation on hold for me for 3 days. I have a confirmation number and can see the itinerary, but it says it is not ticketed yet.

Does this exclusion mean that if I purchase and ticket this in 2 or 3 days that there will not be a 24hr cancel period after the purchase?

If the ETC doesn't come through in time, I may just purchase the ticket without waiting, but would prefer to use the ETC.
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Old Sep 5, 2023, 4:43 pm
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24 Hour Refund problem

I purchased on Basic economy on UA last month and realized within 24 hours I wanted to change. So I cancelled and rebooked the new flights within 24 hours. But when I went to cancel the system didn't seem to recognize that it was within 24 hours so I contacted the chat agent. Initially s/he indicated the same, but when I pushed on it, s/he acknowledged that it was eligible for full refund and said that s/he put in for the refund to original payment. I did save the transcript.

Fast forward a few weeks, and I see my credit card bill shows both transactions with only a credit for the $16 seat purchase fee, not the whole first reservation. I go to check status of the refund and it says "Approved" with a FFC for the total amount minus $99. I don't see a place there to appeal, it won't allow me to submit a refund request online because it has already been "refunded", and Customer Care won't let me submit a request because it only allows for past travel. I called the 800 number and they said I can only deal with this online. Any insight? Or is it time to dispute with my credit card (the United Explorer card)?
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Old Sep 5, 2023, 5:11 pm
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Originally Posted by dblumenhoff
I purchased on Basic economy on UA last month and realized within 24 hours I wanted to change. So I cancelled and rebooked the new flights within 24 hours. But when I went to cancel the system didn't seem to recognize that it was within 24 hours so I contacted the chat agent. Initially s/he indicated the same, but when I pushed on it, s/he acknowledged that it was eligible for full refund and said that s/he put in for the refund to original payment. I did save the transcript.

Fast forward a few weeks, and I see my credit card bill shows both transactions with only a credit for the $16 seat purchase fee, not the whole first reservation. I go to check status of the refund and it says "Approved" with a FFC for the total amount minus $99. I don't see a place there to appeal, it won't allow me to submit a refund request online because it has already been "refunded", and Customer Care won't let me submit a request because it only allows for past travel. I called the 800 number and they said I can only deal with this online. Any insight? Or is it time to dispute with my credit card (the United Explorer card)?
what time exactly did you book, and what time exactly did you cancel? Is it possible you were just over the actual 24 hour mark before cancelation?

if you are absolutely sure that you canceled prior to 24 hours initially, and UA isn’t helping, I’d dispute - both the original fare and the $99 fee.

I suspect that if there was some sort of issue with your original attempt to cancel, and agent dealing with you was beyond 24 hours, system must not have accepted your refund, and so they charged the ‘upgrade’ to regular fee. That would also explain the FFC, which is all you would be eligible for if the system though you were beyond 24 hours.

If you do dispute though, I’d be careful and not use the FFC. This will only invite additional scrutiny, and UA will absolutely have a claim against you, and this could impact your status and MP account.
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Old Sep 5, 2023, 5:26 pm
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If sure the timing was under the limit (what was the timing?) this is a DOT violation and a DOT complaint might be easier and less problematic than a chargeback.
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Old Sep 5, 2023, 10:10 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
If sure the timing was under the limit (what was the timing?) this is a DOT violation and a DOT complaint might be easier and less problematic than a chargeback.
I went back to triple check. The "your united reservation...is processing" email came in at 11:41 (to my best recollection it was more or less immediate) and the eticket confirmation came in the same minute. The UA chat agent said the following day at 11:31 "I was able to cancel your reservation and submit the refund request. You may check on the email confirmation within 24 hours."

Originally Posted by emcampbe
if you are absolutely sure that you canceled prior to 24 hours initially, and UA isn’t helping, I’d dispute - both the original fare and the $99 fee.
Define "UA isn't helping." I guess I'm wondering if there is a different page or phone line or email that I should be contacting. Is it worth it to HUCA the main number or am I going to continue to get the same answer?

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If you do dispute though, I’d be careful and not use the FFC. This will only invite additional scrutiny, and UA will absolutely have a claim against you, and this could impact your status and MP account.
For sure. I wouldn't consider doing that until the whole thing is resolved.
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Old Sep 5, 2023, 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by dblumenhoff
I went back to triple check. The "your united reservation...is processing" email came in at 11:41 (to my best recollection it was more or less immediate) and the eticket confirmation came in the same minute. The UA chat agent said the following day at 11:31 "I was able to cancel your reservation and submit the refund request. You may check on the email confirmation within 24 hours."...
So something like 10 minutes short of the 24 hours. While it should have worked, that was really pushing the deadline, hence the common recommendation is leave an hour buffer.

Still suggest a DOT complaint vs a messier chargeback
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Old Sep 5, 2023, 10:38 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
So something like 10 minutes short of the 24 hours. While it should have worked, that was really pushing the deadline, hence the common recommendation is leave an hour buffer.

Still suggest a DOT complaint vs a messier chargeback
Totally. I started about 90 minutes before with the direct cancellation online. When that was saying it was going to be FFC/fee, I contacted the chat agent at 10:37. It took the chat agent that long to deal with me (including 20 minutes just to verify that the 24 hour cancellation policy existed).
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Old Sep 6, 2023, 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
If sure the timing was under the limit (what was the timing?) this is a DOT violation and a DOT complaint might be easier and less problematic than a chargeback.
to be clear, a DOT complaint won’t necessarily be an alternative to a chargeback, but could be in addition to.

Just as a data point, I filed a DOT complaint about UA refusing constantly to ticket an advertised fare (to India, as part of the SQ deal via SIN) - tried multiple times over several days. This was back in May. Also at the tome, just booked separately - one ticket to SIN and another SIN-BLR separately - ended up being pretty close to the same price. Completely forgot about until last week, when I finally got a [completely irrelevant] response from UA. I realize that is way beyond the limit allowed by DOT regs for a response, but aside from that, a complaint will only force UA to respond, and not necessarily to provide the actual refund. If UA is not responding, I’d argue a chargeback AND a DOT complaint could be in order. UA has been given more than one chance to provide the proper refund, which they did not do, and also still broke the regs, which still deserves a complaint regardless of presence of a chargeback. You could even include in the complaint that UA was in violation of their responsibilities and you needed to initiate a chargeback with your card in response, and that is not OK. Or something like that.
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Old Sep 6, 2023, 9:11 pm
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Keep in mind that there is a chargeback time limit, something like 60 days after the statement on which the charge appears.

Since people often buy tickets in advance of travel, the chargeback deadline can be quite short.
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Old Sep 6, 2023, 10:37 pm
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Originally Posted by SPN Lifer
Keep in mind that there is a chargeback time limit, something like 60 days after the statement on which the charge appears.

Since people often buy tickets in advance of travel, the chargeback deadline can be quite short.
In this case. we are talking about a problem that occurred inherently within 24 hours of purchase,
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Old Nov 17, 2023, 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by dblumenhoff
I purchased on Basic economy on UA last month and realized within 24 hours I wanted to change. So I cancelled and rebooked the new flights within 24 hours. But when I went to cancel the system didn't seem to recognize that it was within 24 hours so I contacted the chat agent. Initially s/he indicated the same, but when I pushed on it, s/he acknowledged that it was eligible for full refund and said that s/he put in for the refund to original payment. I did save the transcript.

Fast forward a few weeks, and I see my credit card bill shows both transactions with only a credit for the $16 seat purchase fee, not the whole first reservation. I go to check status of the refund and it says "Approved" with a FFC for the total amount minus $99. I don't see a place there to appeal, it won't allow me to submit a refund request online because it has already been "refunded", and Customer Care won't let me submit a request because it only allows for past travel. I called the 800 number and they said I can only deal with this online. Any insight? Or is it time to dispute with my credit card (the United Explorer card)?
Update: I contested with Chase as the 60 day deadline approached. After several days they informed me that it had been resolved in my favor. The FFC disappeared from my account. All is well.
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Old Nov 17, 2023, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by dblumenhoff
Update: I contested with Chase as the 60 day deadline approached. After several days they informed me that it had been resolved in my favor. The FFC disappeared from my account. All is well.
All IT systems are subject to "glitches". Looks like you benefited to the tune of a United voucher for this one. If you're sure it was within 24 hours then they should have cancelled to original form of payment. Did United also cancel out your voucher since you charged back the original ticket?

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Old Nov 30, 2023, 5:56 am
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25-Hour Cancellation?

I just cancelled a UA ticket after 24 but before 25 hours. I was only presented with a choice to refund, no choice for FFC. I cancelled and no FFC showed up. Do I get a refund?
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Old Nov 30, 2023, 6:03 am
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Originally Posted by TerryK
I just cancelled a UA ticket after 24 but before 25 hours. I was only presented with a choice to refund, no choice for FFC. I cancelled and no FFC showed up. Do I get a refund?
yes, you should get a refund.
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