Effective the first week of January NRT - SIN will transition from sUA aircraft to sCO aircraft. Should be available in SHARES starting 9/22. Will be flown by NTA FAs as part of the EWR - NRT - EWR pairings.

So if you want F the whole way that means waking up 2 hours earlier or arriving a bit later for the HKG connection which is switching back to the 744, right?

I am guess it is going to use sCO 777 continuation from LAX-NRT ?

No LAX - NRT becomes a 787 the sCO 777 that's gonna be used on NRT - SIN will either come from EWR or IAH.

Aren't the 787s 2 cabin? So there giving up on F to NRT? Probably for the better given the options but still kind of surprising.

Yes the 787s are 2 cabin.

x a billion

CO keeps [messing] with real UA ops in Asia only to reverse course later. Like the HKG 737 fail.

Hopefully this happens once again.

Removing F service to NRT - where are they moving it to?

Makes sense. I can see most of the premium F traffic being pushed to SQ anyway. NH runs two cabin 767's "operated by Air Japan" birds on that route. The "Air Japan" subsidary seems to be used for low-yield destinations.

I could see PMCO crews and aircraft coming to BKK next as well...

At least all the PMCO 777's have E+ now.

At least it's not a 737. For the vast majority of passengers, the s-CO 777 is a push to a slight improvement, depending on preference... not to mention the fact that NRT-SIN sees non-IPTE 777s somewhat often.

Aside from the seat (a 6-7h flight) UA F from NRT-SIN pales in comparison to SQ.

If it could have done the range, CO would have tried it. Just like their failure on HKG-SIN

No doubt the plan is to eliminate F class worldwide as the PMUA planes age out.

Make that United changing United's ops. There is no CO vs. UA when it comes to making aircraft utilization decisions, and, as you may have realised - this is the "real" UA now - there is only one.

*One* change = "keeps"?

Will you only be happy if PMUA aircraft operate all former PMUA Asian routes? You are setting yourself up for disappointment there.

Why? There obviously isn't the demand for F. Otherwise they would, you know, keep it.

Removing it *from* LAX-NRT - you left out the most important part of that sentence, LAX. Just not enough demand obviously, or more profitable business elsewhere.

Or they're just doing it to make you angry

I believe this has already happened on a large scale, hence the change.

That would appear to be smart advice for any airline that isn't willing to invest what BA, SQ, EK, etc. do in their intl. F products.

Not necessarily a bad change at all but given that the pmCO 777s from EWR and IAH go back to either destination I wonder how they'll manage the operations now. Does that mean another pmUA destination will go pmCO?

Someone alluded to the 737 debacle but this is nothing like that change. If you are in a premium class you still get the lie-flat business cabin. I'm just surprised there isn't more of a demand for the F cabin NRT-SIN.

I believe there are only two types of aircraft to run this route, either CO 764 which doesn't seem to make much sense, even though most competitors fly 767 for this route, or PMCO 777. If it's the latter, there's not much difference between the PMCO 777 BF and the UA new config GF, other than privacy or a bit of soft product and service...

I'd guess most of the paid F Traffic on NRT-SIN flies SQ anyway. Not a big deal IMO on this one.

Nothing to do with yield. All NRT-based intra-Asia (and to HNL) 763ER flights are operated by Air Japan. ICN, HKG, TPE, SIN, BKK, PVG etc...