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rankourabu Mar 17, 2014 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 22540330)
There has to be open R inventory to apply an RPU.

I tried to do this this week. It was R2 on IAD-SFO about 2 hours before flight.
I tried to apply the RPU before checking in, could not do it online.
Phone agent tried, but it would re-issue. She said, within 24 hours, it has to be done at the airport. UC agent said, oh we cant do anything about mileage plus...

Same story after checking in.

mahasamatman Mar 17, 2014 2:46 pm


Originally Posted by rankourabu (Post 22540396)
She said, within 24 hours, it has to be done at the airport.

I believe that's correct as a SHARES limitation.

Kacee Mar 17, 2014 2:49 pm


Originally Posted by PV_Premier (Post 22540340)
hogwash.

CPU rarely fills the cabin, there are almost always 1-2 seats available and those seats are almost always put into the R bucket at T-24.

you can check in and view your position, but to properly apply the RPU you have to find someone capable of undoing your check in, applying the RPU, and then re-checking you in. (people say this is easy, but i've had a ton of trouble getting it done by agents, web support, or anyone else).

read my tale here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-sequence.html

if you apply the RPU without undoing the check in, you'll end up without a sequence number (or a sequence number that leaves you back in coach) and you'll run the risk of being downgraded at the gate.

IME it's best to decide if you want to burn the RPU when the R is open, and before checking in.

Agree to all.

My general approach is to make the call instrument vs. CPU somewhere before T-24, as the T-24 sweep often fills all available F seats.

How does E+ look on this flight? That can be an indicator as to number of elite pax.


Originally Posted by rankourabu (Post 22540396)
I tried to do this this week. It was R2 on IAD-SFO about 2 hours before flight.
I tried to apply the RPU before checking in, could not do it online.
Phone agent tried, but it would re-issue. She said, within 24 hours, it has to be done at the airport. UC agent said, oh we cant do anything about mileage plus...

Same story after checking in.

No no no no no. Bad agents.

I have applied many RPUs inside of T-24.

PV_Premier Mar 17, 2014 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 22540438)
Agree to all.

My general approach is to make the call instrument vs. CPU somewhere before T-24, as the T-24 sweep often fills all available F seats.

<snip>

I have applied many RPUs inside of T-24.

item #1 yes, when possible i agree...but it should not matter because... item #2 i also agree, i regularly upgrade Mrs PV or myself on Tcons inside T-24 when R opens and CPU doesn't run/clear us.

mahasamatman Mar 17, 2014 2:59 pm


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 22540438)
the T-24 sweep often fills all available F seats.

You must be on some very elite-light flights. I don't think I have ever seen that happen.

Kacee Mar 17, 2014 3:09 pm


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 22540512)
You must be on some very elite-light flights. I don't think I have ever seen that happen.

I don't understand this comment.

The T-24 CPU sweep often fills all previously available F seats. I don't fly a ton of CPU routes, but they are always in or out of SFO, so certainly no shortage of elites.

1353513636 Mar 18, 2014 8:18 pm


Originally Posted by PV_Premier (Post 22540340)
hogwash.

CPU rarely fills the cabin, there are almost always 1-2 seats available and those seats are almost always put into the R bucket at T-24.

you can check in and view your position, but to properly apply the RPU you have to find someone capable of undoing your check in, applying the RPU, and then re-checking you in. (people say this is easy, but i've had a ton of trouble getting it done by agents, web support, or anyone else).

read my tale here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-sequence.html

if you apply the RPU without undoing the check in, you'll end up without a sequence number (or a sequence number that leaves you back in coach) and you'll run the risk of being downgraded at the gate.

IME it's best to decide if you want to burn the RPU when the R is open, and before checking in.

If the seats are available, why RPU? Why not just wait until you get to the gate and get upgraded free?

PV_Premier Mar 18, 2014 8:48 pm


Originally Posted by 1353513636 (Post 22548781)
If the seats are available, why RPU? Why not just wait until you get to the gate and get upgraded free?

Bc there are more ppl ahead of you on the gate waitlist than seats available in F...???:confused:

I'm always in the waitlist for SFO-EWR with a seat or two open at T24 but I'm not naive enough to think i will get it by just showing up.

Kacee Mar 18, 2014 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by 1353513636 (Post 22548781)
If the seats are available, why RPU? Why not just wait until you get to the gate and get upgraded free?

Seriously?

Because UA not infrequently runs CPU sweeps only at T-120 and then T-24. Which means there could be 50 or more pax waitlisted for the CPU at T-24.

And because others using instruments may grab any open R.

And because UA starts selling buy-ups at online check-in, i.e., at T-24.

All of which means that 5, 10, 15, or even 20 F seats can all get taken while you die on the waitlist.

ralphwiggum Mar 19, 2014 1:22 pm

Same theme, slightly different use case
 
I am on tomorrow's SFO-IAD flight that shows F2 and only has a handful of open seats in Y. I applied an RPU at the time of purchase a couple months back and it has held steady at R0.

Question: Is it wise to call in and cancel the RPU before T-24 so I can take my chances at a CPU? I have been upgraded with my RPU within the T-24 period, and I always wondered if that was a waste of an RPU because I would have had a chance at a CPU. Maybe that is only true when there are a bunch of open F seats? Or, is it best to cancel the RPU within the T-24, check in online and then hope for the best assuming that if there was no R availability within T-24, then it never will open up?

Thanks for your thoughts. I've always thought about this but hadn't shared with the experts. :D

PV_Premier Mar 19, 2014 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by ralphwiggum (Post 22552832)
I am on tomorrow's SFO-IAD flight that shows F2 and only has a handful of open seats in Y. I applied an RPU at the time of purchase a couple months back and it has held steady at R0.

Question: Is it wise to call in and cancel the RPU before T-24 so I can take my chances at a CPU? I have been upgraded with my RPU within the T-24 period, and I always wondered if that was a waste of an RPU because I would have had a chance at a CPU. Maybe that is only true when there are a bunch of open F seats? Or, is it best to cancel the RPU within the T-24, check in online and then hope for the best assuming that if there was no R availability within T-24, then it never will open up?

Thanks for your thoughts. I've always thought about this but hadn't shared with the experts. :D

if you are on UA400 and you have a waitlisted RPU, you should be calling IMMEDIATELY to request that it be cleared. if the agent does not cooperate, say "okay, i'll take my chances" and HUACA.

R=2

note that to "withdraw" an RPU, your original fare class must be available.

clearing SFO-IAD via CPU on a fare less than H is a tricky proposition, IMO, YMMV. this is one of those routes where if you want F, buy F, or use an RPU.

Global321 Mar 19, 2014 3:21 pm


Originally Posted by PV_Premier (Post 22553102)
...note that to "withdraw" an RPU, your original fare class must be available...

I have not heard this before. I cant just withdraw an upgrade cert and sit in coach in my current seat?

(Not doubting you, just wanting to understand.)

JohnMacWW Mar 19, 2014 3:28 pm


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 22540438)
.... the T-24 sweep often fills all available F seats.

My experience is that often seats are held out til the end for paid upgrade offers. I love it if they filled F seats with at T-24 from those seeking to use GPU, RPU or miles. But it seems to me that they hold 2-3 seats until boarding hoping to get people to pay to upgrade when they check in at the airport for their flights.

mahasamatman Mar 19, 2014 3:30 pm


Originally Posted by 110pgl (Post 22553596)
I cant just withdraw an upgrade cert and sit in coach in my current seat?

(Not doubting you, just wanting to understand.)

On the day of departure, you can go back to Coach on any fare. Before that, there must be availability in your original fare bucket.

Note this is for cleared upgrades, not waitlisted upgrades.

Global321 Mar 19, 2014 7:50 pm


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 22553648)
On the day of departure, you can go back to Coach on any fare. Before that, there must be availability in your original fare bucket.

Note this is for cleared upgrades, not waitlisted upgrades.

Got it. Thanks for the clarification.


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