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Weez_1000 Aug 20, 2013 12:01 pm


Originally Posted by UALAXFLYER (Post 21305312)
I know how to do that. The reason I posted is because it says upgrade not available when I try to do it for the GM. But if I try for my itinerary it will allow it. And to be clear it won't put me on the wait list it would confirm it all the way through.

is it international? if so then the minimum fare code would apply. I think W is the minumum

UALAXFLYER Aug 20, 2013 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by Weez_1000 (Post 21305372)
is it international? if so then the minimum fare code would apply. I think W is the minumum

No this is domestic. LAX-ORD.

WineCountryUA Aug 20, 2013 3:55 pm


Originally Posted by UALAXFLYER (Post 21305312)
I know how to do that. The reason I posted is because it says upgrade not available when I try to do it for the GM. But if I try for my itinerary it will allow it. And to be clear it won't put me on the wait list it would confirm it all the way through.

call, do not know of any limitation that should prevent this.

PV_Premier Aug 20, 2013 5:17 pm

i have a couple of reservations with RPUs waitlisted where two travelers are being waitlisted together on one PNR. i am starting to think they will not clear together, so considering using the "separate travelers" function to give a better chance for at least one to clear.

1) what order would they clear in? both are in the same fare class with the same RPU status.

2) in all cases, RPUs are sponsored from accounts of others (not myself). will this separate travelers function interrupt the waitlisting of these RPUs such that i need to contact the sponsors to have them reapplied?

WineCountryUA Aug 20, 2013 9:24 pm


Originally Posted by ddrost1 (Post 21307259)
i have a couple of reservations with RPUs waitlisted where two travelers are being waitlisted together on one PNR. i am starting to think they will not clear together, so considering using the "separate travelers" function to give a better chance for at least one to clear.

1) what order would they clear in? both are in the same fare class with the same RPU status. ...

the third criteria is time of request. When done on a joint PNR the lowest ticket number is done first


Originally Posted by ddrost1 (Post 21307259)
... 2) in all cases, RPUs are sponsored from accounts of others (not myself). will this separate travelers function interrupt the waitlisting of these RPUs such that i need to contact the sponsors to have them reapplied?

interesting question, I'm going to guess it will not create a problem. It is inherent in a two person PNR that at least one is being sponsored and many have done this split when they were the sponsor (but the second passagner was sponsored) and have not been reports of issues.

ozflier Aug 21, 2013 7:15 pm

SYD-LHR GPU use chances.
 
Moderators please feel free to move this elsewhere . I am sure there is a very relevant thread on this but have not been able to find it in the last 2 hours.

I am just talking aloud here but my thoughts may help someone else.

I am flying Australia to LHR via the USA in mid January 2014.

I need to attend a meeting in London and I have 2 GPUs expiring 31 january 14.( in case you ask why I do not go via Asia). I intend to go without stopovers in the USA so I really need to be in BF.

I really hate that feeling you get when your upgrade does not come thru until checkin or not at all! SYD to LAX is a long run in economy- albeit E+ as I am 1K.

I understand that you have a sure bet if there is R inventory when booking. I have tried to use “diditclear” but found it too cumbersome for my abilities.

So, herewith my thoughts and I am happy to be contradicted.

My research, checking on the excellent EF, and recollections from previous posting re

Sydney to the US west coast and vv –


• Monday thru Thursdays are days for best upgrade chances. Forget Friday and Sunday in particular.

• The Sydney-SFO-SYD routing is a better bet for availability for GPU use vs LAX although I have read posters who suggest that this may only apply in one direction only . ( funny though as the latter route is not covered by QF or DL – you would think it would be a harder upgrade)

USA West Coast to London-

• LAX to LHR direct and vv seems a much better bet than SFO to LHR direct.

• Fridays and Sundays are bad for upgrades.

mherdeg Aug 21, 2013 7:20 pm

I would not trust that a GPU will clear on these flights unless there is confirmable inventory available at time of booking.

How much are you planning to pay for a SYD-LHR round trip on UA? Last time I looked, they didn't really publish competitive fares in that market.

It might almost be worth buying J on another carrier. If you do want to fly UA, consider buying a B fare, which is not that much more expensive than their other fares in the market and which carries a 50% PQM bonus and somewhat better upgrade odds if you must waitlist.

PV_Premier Aug 21, 2013 7:38 pm

earlier this week i saw a fair amount of R space on LAX-LHR looking about 60-70 days out from now. including R8 (!!!!) on Monday, 11/4 I believe it was. ended up booking to/from AMS instead for easy Transavia connections to Spain.

ozflier Aug 21, 2013 7:51 pm


Originally Posted by mherdeg (Post 21313979)
I would not trust that a GPU will clear on these flights unless there is confirmable inventory available at time of booking.

How much are you planning to pay for a SYD-LHR round trip on UA? Last time I looked, they didn't really publish competitive fares in that market.

It might almost be worth buying J on another carrier. If you do want to fly UA, consider buying a B fare, which is not that much more expensive than their other fares in the market and which carries a 50% PQM bonus and somewhat better upgrade odds if you must waitlist.

Thanks Mods for finding the appropriate thread.

The upgradeable ( with GPUs) fare BNE-SYD-LHR return is USD 3808 .

B is $5950 for the same routing.

mherdeg Aug 21, 2013 8:37 pm


Originally Posted by ozflier (Post 21314124)
The upgradeable ( with GPUs) fare BNE-SYD-LHR return is USD 3808 .

B is $5950 for the same routing.

Interesting, OK, so a GPU is a pretty good deal if it clears!

By way of contrast, BNE-TPE-BKK-LHR // LHR-BKK-TPE-BNE on *A member EVA Airways prices out at $5298 r/t (looking at 4–13 Jan 2014).

ozflier Aug 21, 2013 9:57 pm

So true and, for once, BNE is a useful point of departure - EVA's only destination in Australia is here.

Also unlike some other north asian airlines , no need to stopover - at most a 5 hour delay in Taipei.

OnePassenger Aug 23, 2013 5:43 am

NO Web glitch!
 

Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 21302694)
PN is only for CPU routes and Instant Upgrades, neither of which would apply to EWR-DEL. R/RN is the proper fare class for the GPU. Suspect you are see a web glitch but a call might be appropriate to clear the situation.

I just noted, when looking at my reservations on united.com, that most of my "R" class confirmed upgrades for upcoming PDX to BKK travel, using one GPU, have today been changed to "PN":

Today:
PDX - IAH PN
IAH - SFO PN
SFO - NRT PN
NRT - BKK R

Boraxo Aug 23, 2013 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 20286051)
Minor - but important - clarification to the above points which are nearly all correct: A GPU is only consumed if ALL of the GPU segments clear. So if you are flying USA-NRT-BKK/SIN and only one of the two long-hauls clears the GPU is refunded, not consumed. :-:

To follow up: I am currently waitlisted on UA #838 BKK-NRT-SFO which requires change of plane in NRT but uses same flight #. Do these segments clear individually? If they do not clear prior to T-24 do I need to checkin early or does waitlist priority remain intact?

WineCountryUA Aug 23, 2013 7:56 pm


Originally Posted by OnePassenger (Post 21321935)
I just noted, when looking at my reservations on united.com, that most of my "R" class confirmed upgrades for upcoming PDX to BKK travel, using one GPU, have today been changed to "PN":....

There have been a fw reports on FT recently reporting the same -- unclear if a glitch or something new.

OnePassenger Aug 23, 2013 9:15 pm

ExpertFlyer
 

Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 21326207)
There have been a fw reports on FT recently reporting the same -- unclear if a glitch or something new.

Thank you. It is important to know if this is new or not, so I can adjust my ExpertFlyer alerts accordingly. I now have the EF searches on for "R." If this is the new upgraded fare code, I need to change them to "PN". But for WHICH flights? Anyone can shed some light please?


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